So with the new shinobi patch, some of the barbarian and fencer skills are able to be cloned. I decided to make a fencer. I don’t know alot about fencer TBH, so here is my attempted build. I mainly need suggestions on skill distribution, thanks a bunch.
Just go Sword3. More benefits. In the end, your build should look like this
Yea… I kinda figured this is the suggested build. It is the exact same base build for the doppel variant (when shinobi patch hits, that is)
I’m not so sure about the skill distribution though. No offense but it seems to be quite aweful. Can you please explain why you chose those skills?
Thanks.
What is this barb2 meme
The “Cleave and Seism can soon be cloned with Shinobi hype” meme I guess?
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Yeah, after patch Barb2 seems stronger for shinobi than Hl2
I agree, the build kaijo linked seems strange. I’m assuming something like this would be core for the best shinobi rotation: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111166eeed.5f7a85.ba955565a5.213f441a618191a5b5.552545 Not sure about Pommel Beat but it’s copyable.
Also, theoretically, wouldn’t Corsair1 be better than Barb2 for a fencer using rapier and dagger? Dust Devil gives more damage than Seism and will also gain damage from dagger with the off-hand skill changes. Or are the Barb2 buffs better?
Huh, you’re right! Dust devil seems to be better than seism.
Maybe because higher level of cleave is important, plus it can be cloned. I’m not too fond of barbarian’s buff though, so definitely leaning more toward sword3-barb1-corsair1… Guess we’ll wait and test it out when the patch comes.
Leveling cleave doesn’t do much though.
Comparing Barb2 to Barb1Cors1, the latter seems to give about 738% more total skill damage for each clone. This is by the copyable skills damage only though. As for Barb2, Frenzy seems decent and Seism has 2 seconds lower cooldown than Dust Devil.
I notice that I did skip Mijin in the skill tree I posted above, but since it seems copyable, you could take it if you don’t care about taking the damage.
Sword3 + 2 free rank + fencer3 + shinobi is most popular fencer3 build.
Video is skipped to boss-fight, re-play from start to view mobbing ability.
Example of hop-cor as free ranks at challenge mode 5 (high gear): here
And Highlander2 as free ranks, solo unique raid here
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Ah ha, Mr. Expert finally shows up 
I think for the 2 free ranks, I would go with pelt and corsair.
BTW greyhiem, any fixes on my fencer’s skill distribution? I sort of have an idea about which skills are important, but I don’t have any experiences with fencer…
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It was difficult to find fencers to ask because fencer is not a popular sword class. Investment for output is high and sp potion use is even higher.
Important to have high crit rate on fencer to use epee garde buff.
I found this example skillbuild on fencer3 shinobi: The 3 shinobi-clone copy skills are maxed, then the remaining points are distributed to have filler attacks.
All fencer guides on kr forums are outdated, no real meta skill distribution is currently available. For example the player of the videos I posted doesn’t use lunge, flanconnade or esquive (does not want too many skills to use).
I recommend you to wait and see if @Lostac will update his fencer guide. I only know this fencer guide on this forum. In general, this forum is lacking specific guides for classes. 
I’ve updated mine to the current patch only, maybe i’ll update it again to match shinobi changes
oh and by the way @gexmnlin13 are you really sure about fencer?
I’ve invested on my BM, Doppel, and Fencer.
My fencer performs the worst, out of the investment.
If you’re going to continue with it, go ahead, just don’t expect too much specially when you don’t have a lot of end game gear to “feel” it.
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@greyhiem thanks a bunch, helpful as always.
@Lostac don’t worry about it. I mainly play the game to experience classes. I am not gonna put a lot of investment on it, but I do want the build and skills to be as good as possible, that’s why I asked for your advices.
Sure thing, it’s just that a lot of people end up getting disappointed and complain, end up resetting their fencers to something else after a reset event.
I’ll try out SW3>Barb2 variant when we get the changes. Cleave does more damage after seism stun then you can double slash your way from cleave bonus damage.
Though for bosses dust devil will end up being better