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How Do You Move Towers In GBL?

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#14

Probably because he doesn’t want anyone else to know about their strategy. It’s their rights to do so.

However, considering there will be so many players accusing their guild for cheating/exploiting (even though they do not do that) just because those players have less knowledge and experience about the game, AvantHeim are forced to reveal about how they could do it.

And now that people have seen how they did it, the video owner immediately took it down. You already got your proofs that they are not cheating anyway.

I’ve been in the similar position so many times with my guild, so I’m not surprised.

I’d say nice job to AvantHeim for founding that trick. I know that you guys are the top guild from SEA. I wish there is a way where we can face off against each other someday. GG and keep up the good work!

#15

Okay. How do you return the tower tower to the original position if it’s moved?

#16

You put a spy in the ennemy guild so he can reverse what was done.

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#17

Sadly, I don’t think you can do that.

The fact that we cannot hit or hurt our own tower makes it impossible to move it back.

#18

Then is it intended? Other skills like Rush, Bash, Doom Spike can’t move the guild tower, why does Sorc’s Mirtis can?

#19

Because those skills are pure knockdown, not knockback (besides Rush that can slightly knockback the enemies).

There are so many hidden mechanics in the game.
You can’t assume everything that you don’t know is possible are bugs/unintentional and say that people who use it are exploiters.

Cleric’s Fade for example. It allows you to walk through magic circles like Flame Ground, Frost Cloud, etc. No one thought about it and maybe the first ones to figure it out will be treated as exploiters also. But the developers did nothing about it and the skill stays that way.

#20

Nobody is accusing nobody of exploiting, but I’d step in on this one and say that this stuff is pure bug exploitation. I don’t believe IMC intended for a freaking TOWER to be moveable, much less so in an event. Because if this was so, then GBL would involve who has the most Sorc’s with Mirtis and knockdown skills and who can steal their towers first. As to quote a rule in the Top Guild Event: “Please note that you will not be allowed to abuse bugs, you may be disqualified as a result”.

This game is already buggy as hell, with exploiters, hackers and whatnot. The best workaround would be to change the unit property of the tower so everybody can have fair game. But with the things as they are, every guild should have at least the DECENCY TO FIGHT FAIRLY. Kill the enemy, destroy the tower. This crap is not a feature, it’s a bug jfc.

#21

Moving enemy towers is very obviously against the game’s design. You were never intended to do it. That this guild found a game breaking issue and, instead of reporting it, decided to use it in order to win a match constitutes bug abuse. Sugarcoating and mental gymnastics doesn’t change this fact.

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#22

That sounds pretty funny, but it has no place in competitive play, with real money at stake.
It might not be an exploit, but it definitely deviates from norm and asking staff for clarification if this is indeed a feature won’t hurt anyone. Just because some odd things are intended, doesn’t mean all of them are.

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#23

do you know some skill can push deployment and many skill can’t push deployment ? And guild tower is a deployment

#26

About accusations. Read their guild chat in the screenshot.

Plus it’s not like the match was won because the tower was moved. They got rekt to begin with.

The Video AvantHeim Doesn't Want You To See
#27

That was just a conversation I was having with my guildmate about the movie 21. We were having small talk about movies and such and have nothing to do with this thread.

All that I wrote here I never did accuse anyone. I was just asking how did the tower moved :slight_smile:

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#29

i tested with icewall and tower did not move but clipped to above icewall

#30

If anyone thinks that moving tower in GBL is a viable good strategy, please feel free to try it out. :))

You have to be already in the enemy base and controlling the area, in order for you to have a chance to move the tower.

Whether is it intended? I don’t know. If it is intended, then it is not a bug. If it is not intended, then Is it something to be abused and get a sure win? Nope.

Once again, try it out. Then you will understand.

Otherwise, just enjoy this funny weird moment in gvg that we discovered by accident

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#31

I wonder what other “accidental discovery” you guys have

#33

Through trial and error, friendly duel testing, during tbl or gbl etc we discover alot! Of course we can’t share.

For example, skills synergies, what skills can hit cloaked, what skills can hit during timestop, how to counter certain setups and much more!

#34

Try it out please with your guild. And let me know your win rates :))

#35
#37

It is precisely we were winning that we chose to test some things out.

Now try to imagine a close match between two top guild, do you think any guild is able to move the tower? Pretty sure if you are in the range to move the tower, you should be hitting it instead of moving it and reduces effective AA per second.

#38

can you try it please ?server SEA don’t have any guild can win AvantHeim . sighhh…