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How about more value for party play?

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#1

This here will either be downvoted to hell or ignored by IMC anyways because, as we know, the only thing IMC really cares about are Bots.
Sometimes I wonder whether the IMC guys bot themselves because… well look at it.

Most items related to the grind are bot only

Before the latest patches the only Mithrils you ever found were in the Auction House and these were always in stacks 10+. Why? Because bots controled the map.
Now with the latest changes (Uphill defense, Gimmicks) you get more Mithrils and guess what, the bots are gone from Tenet B1. But as IMC loves bots that had to be changed so Galoks and the channels were changed such that botters could get their moneys again.
This is an example, but fits for most non dungeon drops.

I mean for the most people I know all their money comes from dungeons, quests and dungeon/worldboss drops.

What happend if IMC wouldn’t like bots so much?

Ever thought about how it would be if dungeon monsters actually had their typical drop patterns? Suddenly the amount of rare drops would be more accessible for most players.
Just look at the amoung of monsters coming in the Uphill Defense. This is one of the very few good additions to the game. Imagine what would happen if these monsters had their typical EXP and Droptables. Then going for uphill would be a lot of value. You get EXP equal to the grind, you sometimes get some rare items from Cafrisun, Galok, Upents or whatever it is coming and this means you get happy which implies fun.
And guess what can not do Uphill or Saalus or Dungeons in a premade party? Bots.
I know there are a lot of hardcore people here who downvote anyone saying that we should reduce the grind, but to be honest, having daily alternatives with some value and fun and whatnot improves the game a lot. Those who want to progress even faster can go grinding then.

Keep in mind

Anything which is related to making premade parties and which actually gives you good progress to the game strengthens the social aspect, forms groups of people or better said brings people together and of course makes bots more and more useless.

But

Not that someone cares anyways - especially IMC.
All hail our computer fellows. Well time to get back to business at least I can enjoy some PvP or I could if I wasn’t on Fedimian and be from Europe.

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#2

Oh look another post about something that’s in every single MMO out there. WoW included.

I think somewhere in that post there was something about rewarding party play? I hope? All I saw was IMC sucks and owns bots.

Dammit, baited by another stupid post…

#3

I wonder why most people, IMC included, are so much against having fun or an enjoyable expierence in the game.
The grind is no fun at all. You mostly can not grind with friends because of level difference. Random parties are the biggest cancer in tos, especially if you have a build which is not the 100% perfect meta. Not enough monsters or anything excitng or challening or even drops (because item loot is for bots only) which could give the grind at least a bit fun - nothing. Just mindless slaying some monsters for some exp.

Actually Earth Tower is fun. Uphill Defense is fun. The 190+ Dungeons at least have some cancer mobs which make you work a bit. Missions are decent.
But you can not progress through that stuff. No loot, no gear. And After 220 next to no EXP. But seems like people like you like having a game which is mostly ■■■■. Personally I like the style here, the classes, the skills, this humor. But still in the end more than half of the game is boring garbage and could easily made fun. I don’t understand. Nevermind, back to catching Pokemon. It’s a nice and refreshing change actually playing a game with devs that care and try to improve it. o_o

#4

Now see, your second post was much more informative. In fact I mostly agree with you. Side note: all 13 of my alts are NOT meta.