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Hoplite C3 Vs Rode C3

Im still searching for a main char my idea was to make a Build focused on pvp but still able to do a bit bossing.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134aaadc
or
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134448dc...3f4f6571...35

I like the hop c3 build more since it looks better for pvp (and GVG)
But is he good enough to have some fun at bossing sometimes?

Have 60m and 2 prac in my storage so money isnt that much of a problem.

The first one is the most generic shinomurm bossing build, at least in varena, while the second one is block monster in pvp. IMO, both can do boss considering how broken murmillo is, but the rodelero version outdamages the hoplite version.

As much as I love hopitle, the spear animation is so stiff and meh :pensive:

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How about Sw1 Pelt 1 Hop 1 Rode 3 Corsair1 mum?
I guess Shinobis Burst is to good to pass right?

I think it’s Hop3 or no Hop at all for Murmillo. 1h spear mastery attribute is too good to not have in PVP (with good equipment, you can pretty much one-shot anyone that’s not full CON with Synchro as long as you don’t get nullified, blocked or evaded).

I haven’t tried playing Rod3 though but I’ve seen both videos and in-game of it performing well in PVP and bossing.

For bossing, yeah. Mijin and Mokutun comes handy in PVP as well.

I like your 2nd build better than the 1st one. Unless they f*ck up Hop3 in the future, it’s one of the best, well-rounded 3-circle options in the Sword tree right now for shield-wielding builds.

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Ok i guess i take the hop c3 build like this build more anyway^^

But theres no need for full con right?
(im not a fan of “FULL” builds )

My invested CON was 100 which gave me around 45k HP in total inside TBL arena with a Nyx set (I was too lazy to farm sh*t), Lionhead Shield, and Swashbuckling on. I think it was 60k+ outside of TBL. It was enough to survive most OHKO skills. The only one that killed me in one hit was a very, very well-geared HopMurm.

I got 100 in DEX too for block pen since again I was too lazy to make/buy high-level yellow gems for gloves (only used lv.5). I was wearing 2 x glass bracelets to compensate. I thought block pen was really necessary in the build (for PVP) because it doesn’t have skills or attributes that improves that substat AFAIK. Evasion from DEX is useless in the build because Finestra negates it. Skill animation speed improved a bit as well (compared to not having DEX at all) which helps with skills having overheats.

The rest went into STR (100+) because, again, of my lack of damage from equips (Trans lv.4 +11 Pevordimas Spear, some +pAtk headgear) so that helps. I can pretty much one-shot players with the same or slightly higher gearing level than me (Synchro, Scutum, Headbutt, and Frenzied Slash sometimes which is very cool to witness, reminds me of the Achilles vs Boagrius scene in Troy). Another important reason was for accuracy against most Archer builds.

I think the Sword tree and some archer builds really got the short end of the stick with the stat rebalance. On equal gearing, a lot of Wiz and Cleric builds can get away with very high or full CON while still dealing decent enough damage.

You can probably still go the full CON route though, but that’s gonna require a really high investment in gear.

(EDIT: This information was until June 2017 so things might have changed)