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Hoplite + Barbarian Build!

Class and Rank
#1

First of all I want the credit for the bulk of this build to go to “Logo Ng” via his or her video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsOMAWEbkys

Disgusting concept and the reason why I came up with my variation of the build.
This is definitely a PVE oriented build but I’ve yet to try it in PVP so who knows :l
Plus im lazy and tired so…yeah LOL.

This is the build:

I’ll try to give some insight into why I picked a skill over another and I am totally open to suggestions and actually encourage tips/advice from more seasoned players of ToS than myself.

Swordsman C1 & C2 was heavily influenced by a Corsair build by LoliLicker:


I did do my own take on some of the choices so please do help with advice/tips or reasoning against what I’ve got!
Always open to suggestions and knowledge!!

I replaced Pummel Beat because I honestly do not like the range on the skill and it just seems lackluster to me in general. I fancied the Restrain much more and feel like with that high % stun on auto attacks, you can utilize the barbarian’s Cleave much better. I also do recognize that barbarian’s tree C1 & C2 has it’s own command stun type skills in Seism & Helm Chopper so maybe I should’ve just done 5/5 Pummel over Restrain.

I opted for 2/5 in Pain barrier but I do feel like it is a cooldown I’m going to pop when I want to go ham and be a bit careless around bosses. I do not value the extra duration on it as much as Logo Ng did though because I do feel like I am able enough to avoid most knockdowns.But if you guys have experience with 5/5 or even more in Pain barrier, please do share!

Overall for the Swordsman C1 + C2, obviously Gungho and Concentration are the highlights so other than that I honestly didn’t really care too much for the other skills picked out.

Hoplite tree is pretty standard, sort of just went with what Logo had because I do feel those are the premier skills of the tree anyways. If anyone has different preferences/choices please do elaborate!

Barbarian is pretty straight forward as well, however I did choose 5 Warcry over 5 more points in Helm Chopper simply because I feel like the debuff is pretty nice although -19…may not be good enough? Thoughts?? Also picked 5/5 Frenzy to just go ham with auto attacks, and didn’t want to pick up embowel or stomp.

As for stats (excuse me for being a noob) but I’m getting the feel right now that dex is more valuable than strength for a lot of reasons like crit and evasion but with finestra wouldn’t that render the evasion useless? Maybe a strength focus stat build would suit this better?
Again, sorry. So confused by the stats in this game, help a nub out!

Thanks for checking out my post and please PLEASE leave suggestions or comments under on how I can better this build!
I’m really excited about making it happen either in live ToS or OBT :slight_smile:

#2

That video only looks cool because of Savagery + Aggressor buff from Barbarian, which are removed.

A cookie cutter swordman -> pelt -> hoplite build will ease your pain a lot

#3

Any reasoning in the Pelt rank 1? I don’t feel their skills provide too much of a boon except for maybe…swash buckling?

#4

Honestly speaking, If you’re going to use two-handed spear, then I think there’s no reason for you to go Pelt. Unless you’re planning to switch weapon to be able to use swash buckling and to Guard to block the attacks(Attribute).

#5

On the contrary

  • Rim blow and Umbo blow provide cheap DPS for you (all hoplite skills are on long cooldown) as well as semi crowd control (knock down and 25% chance for stun)
  • Swashbuckling is self-explanatory
  • Guardian, give up 3 attack for 18% increased in evasion, off set the finestra penalty
  • 25% increased in block chance from attribute
  • 50% increased defense when using Guard stance ©
#6

Thats what I was thinking too, I’m sorry if I didn’t clarify before but yes this build is tailored ideally for a 2-handed spear weapon. hiding in safety zones with cleric heals and going HAM on the boss :stuck_out_tongue: or just being quick on my feet in solo play T_T

#7

I can’t speak for everyone, but I can speak from lots of experience. Peltasta brings much to the table for Hoplite. I would like to clarify that this does depend a lot on how you play.

Peltasta Umbo blow (especially) and Rim blow are not only very damaging strike attacks that only require a shield, they also have crowd control functions. Also the cool down on these skills are light compared to hoplites skills. Peltasa gets the ability to manually block and gets a physical def major buff when block is engaged. They get a passive block of +25% at level five from attributes. Swash buckling… my god. provokes mobs. lots of mobs even at lvl 5 it’s extremely useful for grouping. Not to mention the swash buckling attribute gives you increased aggro for a short time and +25% HP while the buff is up.

And most importantly… for female characters… an awesome outfit. (subject to opinion. I can’t stand the hoplite outfit on females or it’s color.)

edit: Solo wise. you have much more survivability with Peltasta. you may not have the awesome aoe’s but for over 50% of bosses you can literally block there attacks for 0 damage. if you… invest in some CON you can outlast… just about anything if you’re a tactical enough player. You won’t have the damage or AOEs compared to other branches.

#8

If that’s the case, then you don’t need to go Pelt.

I’m actually playing sword > pelt 2 > hop… Which I think is kinda useless. Since I don’t use the Pelta buffs often due to the damage reduction. And being able to taunt 20+ monsters really won’t help when you’re soloing.

But if you’re lucky to get party all the time, then I guess it’s good.

#9

Thank you for the insight,
And to you too @thailehuy
I will see to maybe change that out, darn haha, really wanted to get away with not diving into peltasta but I can clearly see the huge boons from having just C1 of the class!

#10

I’m actually remaking my build. Going for Sword > Pelt > Hop. I just want to get that taunt and Guard skill.

#11

Thats what I was thinking too but man those pelt buffs really help fill in a lot of the “gaps” in terms of well-roundedness haha. I mean again, my goal and playstyle with the proposed build is very focused on just going bat sh*t crazy jumping around and what not to survive, but those things definitely provide great help to hoplite, no denying that!

#12

No problem! I stay as far away from cookie cutter builds and guides as possible for 90% of things. Games to me are about having fun and doing things in an optimal manner for me. Peltasta is a very logical choice and works well with hoplite, if your using hoplite as primary/main class.

#13

Yeah. You can solo or go party with other and tank for them. Which is kinda ideal to level fast.

#14

Yeah definitely, hoplite skills are …like jesus look at them LOL.
But I really just wanted to avoid the pelt just to be a bit greedier for those extra concentration/gungho points xD

#15

I was actually thinking like that. But considering that they’ll only give a few more damage for the cost of def/hp, naaah.

#16

Sweet, definitely noted. thanks for the feedback!

#17

You can’t use 2-handed spears without Cataphract.

#18

Sad times, sad times indeed, makes pelt more and more convicting then ; -;
RIP the 2-handed berserker boss boy warrior

Oh yeah, anyone have experiences with 5/5 Pain Barrier?? or is it completely preference and really is overlooked as a skill?

#19

It only lasts a bit longer than 1/5 pain barrier. I always have 1/5 pain barrier though, just in case, for example when I’m spamming Stabbing and I need to make sure I will not get interrupted, I cast pain barrier before

#20

Same as what I was thinking, thats why i only dumped 2 points in it to begin with, 20 seconds compared to 15 isnt…too much of a boost for those precious pointzzz