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Hop1 > Barb3 > Doppel?

Hey guys!

I’m having a lot of fun with my Pelt>Hop>Cata but running on foot with a Spear + Dagger just looks so visually appealing to me, especially on the Finestra Stance

Finestra

No Finestra

I’ve already read about the (Hop2 > Cors2 > Drag) and (Hop3 > Dop1 > Drag) builds but I find them to be lacking in AoEs, which I care about the most tbh.

So the idea behind the Hop 1 > Barb 3 > Dop 1 is like… a non-riding Cata…? LOL

Does this sound like a terrible idea?

I’m also thinking maybe I should do Barb 3 > Dop 1 > Drag instead. Would that be much better? I kinda really like Finestra’s stance and AOE ratio bonus, but if the Barb>Drag sounds much better then maybe I’ll go with that instead.

Edit:

Or maybe Hop 1 > Barb 2 > Doppel 1 > Dragoon?

Hmm i think tje build thats you mention is alot better than barb 3

Hop2>cor2>drag is really strong nd do impressive dmg all around

Hop3>dop1>drag is currently the best pve swordman build ingame so i will not mention its

This two build is good due to hop c2 which giving spear lunge

Your barb c3 build will really falloff late, your lose a rank6 class thats really ton of dmg (dop,cor2)

And seriously only Aoe you mention only come from seism(other skills is almost the same as hop hitbox) which really fall off high lv, also its dmg multiply is only 1.7 if you compare with hexen,cyclone,drag skill its just keep fall down

If you choose its for aoe you better not, but barb c3 is good if you want to improve base dmg though

So for me while barb c3 is good but its not worth to sacrifice the rank6 class for its especially when you using spear as main weapon (believe me dont skip spear lunge if you use spear)

But if you really want to go c3 barb obviously you can but be prepare to the lack of dmg when compare to other build

But instead of Spear Lunge, I’d be getting Cleave which would have

Cleave now gives a 5 seconds [Cleave] debuff on its target.
[Cleave] Debuff: Target Recieves 50% more damage from [Slash] type attacks.
Skill cooldown has been decreased 21 → 16
Skill overheat has been increased 2 → 3

after the merge patch

It’ll improve my Cyclone and Dragon Soar

And wouldn’t that Cleave update make something like Hop2>Barb better than Hop3 for Doppel>Dragoon builds?

Yeah after ktos patch barb will be alot viable

But since you focus on spear, spear lunge still a must

Hop2>barb1>dop>drag will be really great boost in damage but will its out dmg cor2, hop3 or not is unknown (my thought is its should provide a little more dmg than hop3 but still lose in burst to cor2 build)

As i alrdy say barb c3 is not worth for spear build but if its only c1 or c2 as filler (mainly for cleave,seism) its viable