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Highlander or Barbarian for dopple, i need your opinion

Hello, so im doing this post to see and to search the advice of experience players.

I do have 2 builds made into a future dopple

Sw>High>Barb C3
And
Sw>High C3

I want your honest opinion on what should i build, in ready to take them to circle 6 but i wan to know what do you guys think its best

And would a build of SW>High C2> Barb C2 would work good.

Depends on what playstyle you prefer
HL3 is more into debuff then damage skill set and the monster strike skill despite coming from a rank2 class, CartarStroke
-knockdown>CartarStroke(recently in kToS)
-Crown>Mounlinet(same as above^)
-Crosscut(or any bleed)>Skyliner
-SkullSmash>VerticalSlash(more debuff more damage)
While Barb3 gets nifty CC stuns/AoEs and self PA buff and the all wanted toolskill for Dopps, Cleave
-Cleave>other slash skills
-Stun from HelmChopper/Seism which can be chained to Cleave for extra damage
-Frenzy, Warcry for PA buffs(kToS recent addition ‘Feral’ passive attribute at Barb2 also adds PA)
-Pouncing’s knockdown spree while running(channeling) against non bosses

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So i guess a HL c2 and Barb c2 would not get those full bonuses

Yes, HL3 has skull swing which is the sole reason you want HL3 in the first place. You reduce enemy def to 0 and gives all your skills true damage to enemies. This skill is really really usefull on bosses and every phsical damage will benefit from that. Not to mention more damage on crosscut + skyliner.

While at Barb3, you have more frenzy, cleave, seism, warcry and oh-god running knockdown on pouncing. Combine frenzy with DoV is also good on bosses

TL;DR
HL3=>Shine on bosses
Barb3=>Shine on mobs

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Just get one of these and ur doppel will be great.

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holy cow that’s nasty af the p2w is real one that one

i think barb 3 is better for ET doppels

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yes, like I said, HL is bossing while Barb for mobs. it’s just that on ET mobs density are high so obviously warcry and pouncing will be more beneficial.

I have played HL and barb before so yeah pretty what I experienced

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Hello, I’ve played both and here’s what I would say:

Barb

is very comfortable to use, pouncing has long ass cd but does its job against multiple monsters, and can reach 10k-15k per hit given enough gear

Seism is a nice stun placer, doesn’t do good damage later on but stuns multiple monsters, good for chain disabling later on.

Warcry/Frenzy are your strong tools, Frenzy might be annoying to stack but should be easy to stack with DOV15. Both in total can give you 1k± total PA

HL

The problem here mostly is that you aren’t given free AoE Attack ratio on your skills so your target count is limited (usually 2-3) but your dps will be very high.

Debuffs like Crown and Skull swing can be helpful in the long run, both fulfill the role of weakening bosses. If you’re playing with a static group with Pelt 3 skull swing can be a little pointless

** Ever since the gem upgrade, if you could grab yourself a nulis and put Lv6-7 gems on it, you could use it forever if you need a sword with AoE Attack ratio. It solves most of your low target problems.

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yep…dont care what class u playing…just get those weapon…and transced it to 550%…then u good to go…haha

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what do you think about a sword3 hl1 barb1 dopp 3 build?

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I would say not getting at least 10 lvl skils in about 2 circles its a waste…

Thx to all you guys, i learned alot from it, ill be lvling both paths, try them out, did you went full str or dex? I so far im liking those crits :stuck_out_tongue:

Potentially really strong endgame both PvE and PvP with DOV Restraint Cyclone cheesing mobs, but leveling it is quite a pain since you basically have neither the cross-liner for bossing or seism/pouncing for easy grinding.

Do expect to find chrono friend/slave though, otherwise you’re kinda weak without that Pass reducing cyclone cd.

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The new meta here is full dex.
Short reason is because due that damage can be increased via equips(and transcend) while critical rate is limited.
and another reason is dex give you evasion with better survivability than STR.

If you’re short on budget though, mixing stat is recommended like 3:1 STR:DEX or 3:1 DEX:STR

If you want longer versions of the reason why, there’s a reallllly long debate on this forum. Just search keyword “Team STR vs Team Dex”

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