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High Str melee cleric -- How do?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

right, i mean i get it. right off the bat this is a less-than ideal base for melee. i have a full-str Krivis 2, so i get how it can be slow, and having almost zero AoE really hurts… on the flip side, for persistence she just doesn’t quit until her armor breaks down, unless she gets completely mobbed.

… oh my god, these “your topic is similar to…” popups need to die.
AHEM anyway…

so i -want-…
1 - Cleric - obviously, i need to start here.
2 - Priest - those buffs are too handy, and i really regret missing them on my Krivis.
? - some kind of AoE would be really useful, if there’s something that fits…

… but now what?
more priest until chaplain?
i don’t necessarily need paladin, but i don’t necessarily hate it either.
i’m willing to consider a skill-reset scroll on my Krivis 2 even, if for some reason you think that’s a good starting point.

i do NOT want…
Bokor, Sadhu, or Oracle – i don’t want to fiddle around with spells or gimmicks, i just want to smash things. i mean if you feel like your build suggestion just -needs- one of these, give me a reason and i’ll listen, but again, keep in mind i’m looking for melee not a caster.

so, please.
throw me some levelling path suggestions.
and give me more than just a list of ranks – tell me why you picked classes, what kind of skills you would aim for, and what kind of stat allocation you would use.

#2

easy you cam go for cleric -> priest c2 ->pally -> monk c3

thats your melee way and the only way

#3

Okay, there are actually a couple of options here, and some are weirder than others. Just for clarification, Sadhu’s not a Str based class. It’s all MAtk.

Anyways.

Cleric 2 > Diev > Pally 3 > ???
Cleric 1 > Priest 3 > Chaplain > ???
Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Druid 2

Paladin, Chaplain, Druid, and Monk are the four Melee cleric classes. Paladin is tankier, offers more defensive support, particularly against magic. Chaplain offers more bonus damage to your party (it is based in priest after all). I’m not actually sure if its main stat is STR or SPR tbh? I think they’re both equally viable but I’m really not sure. Diev > Druid is a potentially really gimmicky build. Basically, you turn enemies into plants with Chortasmata, then you carve them with Diev for the bonus damage against plants. Then you use the bonus damage and crit from a medium type animal monster using transform until you can do it again.

The monk is probably the most what you’re looking for. Paladin if you want something tankier, Chaplain if you want something supportier, Druid if you wanna try something weird.

#5

I think good gear for cleric melee first one you can grab is caprisan then arde dagger you just auto all the way. Here’s my monk autoing its a vid on trolling some dude macroing. I went c1 cleric c3 priest then monk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEadbqJhUsY

#6

Chaplain is actually more Int/Spr since it casts Aspersion which is a magic skill as part of your auto attacks. While Aspersion scales with SPR, because it’s magic it will scale off of Int as well. Don’t forget the +10% bonus per rank Int gets too!

#7

The pally I’m going will be doing Cleric C2> Diev C1 > Pally C3 > PD

It’ll be semi dps/support. With Cleric C2, you get a good amount of heals. With only 1 circle to invest in since the other 6 are pally, cleric and PD, diev is the best of all your C1 choices for support.

#8

Melee cleric is a weird thing to build stats for.
First thing, best auto attack build is Chaplain. You get those sweet priest buffs and cast aspersion on every attack.

If you are chaplain, your basic attack scales ~equally off of INT, SPR and STR. (DEX muddies things, so screw DEX) You mentioned you want STR, so I’ll focus on that.

Only three classes do STR stuff: deivdirby’s Carve, Paladin’s Smite and Monk’s everything.
Frankly, I vote monk2. It has all the punching stuff you could ever ask for.

And as a final, out of left field idea: Be a Druid, and use shapeshift. there are some nice melee buffs for wandering around as a medium animal type monster, specifically +110 damage ala Blessing and +50% crit rate. I DON"T know how well this works in practice. As far as I know it hasn’t been accomplished yet on an NA server.

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#9

druid is not melee, where did u get tht from?

#10

Look up the druid class attributes. Transforming into certain kinds of monster gives you some hefty melee buffs. Specifically, an animal will give you 50% bonus crit rate, and a medium monster gives you 110 additional damage.

#11

yeah, but druid as a class is a ranged magic class. not a melee class

#12

A ranged magic class that happens to have a 50% crit rate self buff, yes.

#13

paladin monk and chaplain is 3 path that support STR build the most
but if you want pvp you will need dex also

#14

Given the feedback from the Druid class thread, it doesn’t seem like physical shapeshifting is worth it, even with the 50% crit rate boost. The base damage just isn’t high enough. If you want crit, it might be better to go SPR Krivis for Zalciai + Paladin instead (since Smite doesn’t scale too well with STR), with the limitation being Zalciai’s CD.

STR Pally can work, but for that you’d ideally skip Priest, and even then you’d fall behind other DPSs because of a Smite + Conviction bug (likely less dmg than Monk). Pally 1 isn’t usually worth it, but with 3 you do get Conviction. Cleric2>Diev>Pally3>Monk1 is viable, you can check the details in the Paladin Compendium thread.

Other than that, though, I guess your best option would be a Monk. It’s not very high DPS but not too low either, you get much better sustain than other DPSs depending on your build (Priest3 is viable), and Energy Wave exists (there’s your AoE). A bug seems to exist that makes Deprotected + Hand Knife a line AoE for some reason, too.


Pally1 with Monk3 is viable, but does not add much to the build other than lv5 Smite, which scales better with crit than it does with STR. Turn Undead and Restoration are both craftable into Simony scrolls, and they're cheap.

And yeah, as has been mentioned, Chaplain is better off with INT/SPR than STR.

#15

Str melee cleric with priest would be
cleric2 - priest2 -monk3 so you have priest and good melee and aoe skills as monk2

or you could change cleric 2 for another rank in priest.

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#16

I’ll have to ask. Did you mean STR cleric or melee cleric?

With the changes to [blessing] an SPR auto attack priest 3 will scale SPR better than STR. The basic build would gain 252% of SPR as damage while STR scaling remains at 100%. Add cafrisun and the SPR scaling becomes 336% while STR scaling remains at 100%. Change into a chaplain and the SPR scaling becomes 520% while STR scaling remains at 100%.

#17

[quote=“c2gaming, post:16, topic:188576”]
With the changes to [blessing] an SPR auto attack priest 3 will scale SPR better than STR. The basic build would gain 252% of SPR as damage while STR scaling remains at 100%. Add cafrisun and the SPR scaling becomes 336% while STR scaling remains at 100%. Change into a chaplain and the SPR scaling becomes 520% while STR scaling remains at 100%.
[/quote]That’s if and when we get the Blessing changes though.

Also STR scaling isn’t that low, given that stat points on it have the 70% boost at rank 7. Cafrisun isn’t really viable at higher levels either. SPR would still scale significantly better post-Blessing change though… and as a bonus, you’d have the option of using Zalciai scrolls for a massive crit attack buff + crit resist debuff (going into negative crit resist), only limited by the 20s cooldown.

…this actually kinda made me want to try SPR Chaplain if we get the changes, sounds like the DPS could be pretty significant… and it’s Priest 3 after all, so also good for support…

#18

just because you can shape shift into a melee doesnt mean anything. you can also shep shift into raged. they give you a crit rate bcuz obviously, you are gonna be going with int. and they give u a crit rate bcuz the monster is melee, they wouldnt just give u monster powers and have u not crit. plujs shapeshifting is terrible.

#19

Since everyone been mentioning about Monk/Paladin. I’ll just add in something i saw in KTOS a while ago.

High STR Cleric isn’t that bad. I have seen most KTOS running full STR Druid with massive critical gears dish out pretty amazing damage comparing Monk and Paladin.

C2 Cleric > C3 Priest > C2 Druid

Keep/transform Blue Pawndel transformation for amazing multi-hit boxes spin with limitless AoE ratio.

Fun build, Cleared ET, and failed in PvP xD (Except for Archer based transformation).

There are certain monsters with multi-shot skills (Especially range), so that work extremely in PvP.

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#20

interesting, since they got the priest buffs there, but I think it wont be as viable here in ITOS, but hey that’s something to try , a druid using transform to utilize phyiscal skills, rather than all druid using carnivory and diev here in ITOS

#21

Plus you’re all set up for when IMC finally gets around to fixing transform!