I see, nice attribute.
don’t need to be mean tho.
some info for you, back then when akisera are dopp with str/con build, he’s sayin dopp with dex build are trash, dont make the same mistake dude.
my skills choises are the most suitable for me, it didnt apply to anyone. it just matter of preference.
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Plain fact, guess he is trolling - whatever it is that skill distribution for Highlander is a joke. The Attribute is really nice - against mob groups. Against single targets with leather armor still good. But it’s a combo into a cc wihich is really good for the R8 content.
Of course Full/High Dex is the way to go anything else is really bad.
you got spare points to work with,
into moulinet or vertical slash.
or seems that you really want cartar that much so you can pour it there
cross guard is low because blocking and evasion got nerfed in general against bosses (if you’ve noticed)
Yeah, i’ll prob go smtg like 1str 4dex or so, i’ve played the last beta, but i didn’t play the release untill now, much things has changed.
Thanks, but i have some doubts, why bash 4 and thrust 1? thrust don’t seems to be effective in any way later on, bash 3 isn’t better to when u need the knockdown to combo?
and why crown so high? which benefits will give to us?
one last thing, vertical slash 5 after skull swing doesn’t do a good damage? if moulinete dmg buff comes, will be worthy to level to 10?
i’ll prob pux my cartar in lvl 10 if the attribute comes, the cast will be fast and will get a good improvement in dmg (iguess, no one confirm how 3-10 scales to late game yet) but yeah, i like this skill since when in korean beta he got cast lvl 5 with lvl 15 cartar, broken as fuk.
You will NEVER use bash for the damage, EVER. it’s only there for knockdown.
also look at the damage difference of lv 4 and 5 bash, it doesn’t matter.
with thrust you can use it on special occasions and on lower levels still
Crown can lower boss damage to 1 even with only 100+ total str or lower
vertical slash can go upto 100k+ easily given enough debuffs placed, level1-5 is ok.
Moulinet is good but, look at the cooldown. yes after the buff it might be an option to max too.
Yea i suppose i will never use bash as damage that’s why i asked why 4 not 3 haha, how crown works with world boss like necroventer? just to clarify my mind, seems op with 100% up time against magic bosses (which we more struggle with)
And yeah 35cd 1charge hurts, but if the dmg buff worths, it’s smtg to think about
Thank again for the answers.
same reasoning with thrust, both damage per level sucks so it doesn’t matter
I haven’t tested necroventer with crown yet but i’ll give mineloader as an example
No Crown > 1.5k to 2k aoe purple burst
Crown > 1-400 aoe purple burst
str: 140
really nice debuff then, but mineloader has like 36int, necroventer 80+, but still good, i’ll put more points in it probably.
and i guess i don’t need dagoon wheel if i get bash 3charge knockdown, wheel dmg sux as well.
it’s useful to chain against a 500k hp monster for example
After your 3 bashes > wagon > 3 bashes
but yes going without wagon wheel doesn’t matter
Ic, a lot of new information, i’m leveling the high yet slowly so i don’t need to hurry, but i don’t want to regret again and remake the char haha, sorry for the many questions, btw in your fencer thread i saw u post an off topic there about cartar doing 800k cap dmg n stuff with a lot of dbuffs like lethargy, pelta / rode debuffs and serpentine, do u think they’ll increase the cap dmg? would be fun to do such a thing, or not, cuz lvl 330 full gear doest a lot more then 800k in like few seconds.
Nice guide btw 
they just increased it, maybe on r9
oh didn’t knew that, but if u stop to think 800k in 1 skill is a lot of dmg, lul.
i’m getting a few attribute early levels, if i reset my skills i’ll loose the attributes? guess not right? just to be sure, i’ll prob reset later on.
and for what sounds like high skills scales well in higher levels, thats nice, i always prefered high than barb.
is there other way to knockdown enemies or i need that lvl 3 bash ?
one of your doppel skills or wagon wheel
thx i will lvl concentrate to 5 than
this is my build as a doppel 3 http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/e0h616mhmo/
with the upcoming molinet buff it will rock even more, currently is one the variants that offer the highest dps in a single target, since skylinear+crosscut,skull swing, cartar stroke and vertical slash still do a ■■■■ ton of dmg, the doppel c3 skills are at 1, punish earthquake is great, have some weird mechanics, for example the more gathered mobs are together and down the more dmg it does, with linker is godly (1 shot packs at tymeris) is pretty useful and for power leveling at other places and farming money too(bash 3 is mandatory for this, and wagon too, besides those are one of the swordsman skill that allow you to survive at 3xx maps), regarding to the people that suggest sw3 over high3 is still a pretty solid build, but you will lose in dmg to them(since if you don’t dodge and keep getting hit without being knocked it would be your dead but is a matter of preference, can be fixed with a revive tho), since a doppel need to be in a party to shine at his most (i rank doppel 3 as the most powerful swordsman at r8 but need a pretty solid party with him at focus), now getting back at the highlander3 part, cartar at 3 is only for the attributes, even with the lower cd attributes coming, is not worth it going higher, since cartar just by being cartar is pretty strong and the difference at 3 to 15 in r8 with 315 weapons will be too little, crown is one of the best debuff against magics boss or mobs, keeping it up 100% is pretty great, with the new molinet will be even greater, skull swing is a crazy dmg booster at r8, reducing the def to 0 from 2k increase your dmg too much to be ignored, vertical is a skill that does nice dmg regarding of the cleave+swar combo, cross cut+skylinear is still one of the most strongest skill in your arsenal, is stronger than zucken and zhomau, even does more dmg than redel.
btw i highly suggest to get a reset skill pot, since the attributes from zhum, zucken and redel are great, is not worth it compared too lose dov15 and cyclone 15, then level them to 6, reset and leave them at 1. (wich is what i did, even it’s a bug it 'll be not fixed in a long time…)
Thanks man, clarifty a lot of things, i’m in the right way, i’m not a bif fan of doppel sprite abilitys but it’s who synergy better with high, and i really like high, much more than barb/other low ranks swords.
I’m thinking going like 1str 3 dex or 1str 4 dex, sounds k? have a lot of discuss which is better for us, full str or full dex, and i didn’t put in calculator to see for real. btw, crown int / spr reduce time is the same time that the shock will be on target? and ability attack doesn’t scale with overall phsycal attack/crit we have?
crown debuff is particulary special, since scale directly with your own str, that’s why lostac mentioned that even with 100 base str most enemies will be doing 1 dmg ( but with 3xx it will only cut his dmg in half most of the time), regarding stats… its a bit trickie since dex is a lot more rewarding than str, for max dmg one should go full dex… since red gems and headgears help in the physical dmg department until you get your 315 weapon, still, high dex is what one should aim atm, even if the class itself synergies most with str, what you get from dex cannot be replaced.
ops… i almost forgot, regarding the shock applied stats, is some weird, lets say that zhumao applies his own debuff that increase zucken and crown applies his own debuff, not sure how it works, but zucken dmg don’t increase with crown, but tbh… the dmg increase isn’t that big too…