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Help with Murmillo tank build: Rank 7 mysteries

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello, I need help deciding on a class for rank 7 on my tank build. I’m deciding between Peltasta 3 or Shinobi, based on which one will give me more DPS. I don’t know if the clones or the Pelt 3 moves + Murmillo attributes will give me more overall DPS per minute. This is what my Shinobi build looks like:

If I choose Pelt 3, my skills will all look the same as they did in Pelt 2, except I will have Butterfly and Umbo Thrust maxed (and ofc Swashbuckling).

Also if you think the stat build needs to be improved, that would also be nice. I have 33 DEX invested just so I can have some block penetration.

#2

If your goal is to be a tank, your only option is pelt3 as the added targets from swashbuckling is the only reason to bring you over a non-tank.

#3

Yeah, but I also wanted to have enough damage to be able to solo without taking forever to kill a single mob. Will Pelt 3 still offer that? And also, don’t you need to have more damage in order to keep aggro?

#4

Pelta 3 has good damage. I’d pick Pelta 3 anytime over shinobi, but that’s my opinion. People overestimate shinobi a lot because it’s easy to deal good burst damage with it (you don’t need any attribute to deal dmg with clones) but Umbro Thrust + Murmillo attributes still deals tons of damage as well. Butterfly is also good but Umbro Thrust is much more powerful (more damage, faster animation and def reduction debuff).

Shinobi is better for killing boss but it’s very annoying to play doing anything else (clones are very slow and they often face wrong directions or miss skills). Taking +50% damage after swash buckling a whole room of mobs is also not very nice.

You won’t deal bad damage with Rodelero 3 -> Murmillo unless you don’t invest in weapon / attributes.

#5

Yeah, I’ve played Shinobi with this build (before I rank reset it) before, and the clones did often face the wrong direction, and I would sometimes have to reposition myself to get them to face the right direction.

#6

yeah pelt3 rode3 murm can do damage, you just need a good weapon for your level and investment in attributes. Murm is very expensive.

#7

Im playing with Pelt3 Rode3 Murm right now and feel Im doing good damage after leveling some of my attributes.

Problem I see is a lack of AoE, maybe Shinobi helps with that.

#8

Really? Most of the Pelt/Rodel moves seem to have like at least 5 AoE attack ratio. But yeah, the Kunai are also good AoE.

#9

The big advantage of Peltasta is that you can always group mobs very close together with Swash Buckling. Targe Smash, Scutum Hit and Umblo Blow are your best AoE skills in terms of area. If you group up mobs nicely you can always make these skills hit the maximum amount of mobs limited only by your AoE atk ratio.

Shinobi for AoE damage isn’t all that great. You can’t quite control where the skills go and many will miss or go to different mobs so mobs will be left with lots of hp without dying (independent clones damage suck). Taking +50% extra damage while trying hard to reposition yourself with clones and all mobs attacking you is also really bothersome. You also start losing on aggro (mobs may start attacking clones) which kinda defeats the purpose of tanking and keeping mobs together.

#10

What do you think about trying to fit Hoplite1 (for Finestra Splash) to solve the AoE atk ratio problem?

#11

honestly what made rodelero2 and 3 good is kinda gone, now that armor breaks and such have a short duration. Rode1 is only good for pvp in that montano and shield charge are great CC.

You could go pelt3 with murm and pick what you want as filler instead of rod1-3.

#12

It’s kinda a waste go for Hoplite 1 and not 2, Spear Lunge is a really good skill, specially with shinobi kunai.

#13

It’s a bit too late for that for me. I’m sitting on rank 6 class 15, already have Pelt 2 Rodel 3.

#14

It’s not a terrible idea. I think it comes down to personal preference at this point. Shinobi / Pelta3 / Hop1 would all be good picks.

I -think- High Kick would buff the +50% damage on Synchro Thrust as well.

I disagree, Rodelero still deals crap tons of damage. More than Hoplite 3 -> Murmillo for sure.

#15

Well, I’ve decided on Pelt 3! Thanks for all the info, guys!

#16

So uhm its better for me to take something like

sw3 pelt 3 ??? murmillo instead? Yup im one of those plebs that cant live without having sw3 on my builds. kek

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#17

sw3 does well with shinobi since double slash can be used by clones. With reasonable crit rate and the attribute, double slash will crit most of the time.

sw3 is more of a pvp build though, so sw3 pelt3 isnt really viable since you should have at least corsair1 in there for hook.

#18

Its all about the burst bro! But if u want to be a “tank” u should go pelt 3.

I love my shinobi though. I dont even have money to max my murmillo attributes and still nobody can burst bosses faster than me :slight_smile:

But getting the shinobi flower was painful.