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Help to choose between two "bad" toons to reset using the rank voucher a3qs3 to sr3 or pd2 to inquisitor

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#1

Hello guys,

I would like your opinions about this, since I do not know much about high lvl content, these lvl 220+ toons are my highest ones.
I have two toons that i think would need a reset and I’m most interested in PvE.

1 - Machinegun archer 220Dex:40+Con
archer 3->quarrel shooter 3 -> musketeer 2
Currently lvl 223 lvl 1 muskteer

Reason: I used to live in Brazil, so I play in Silute, but now I live in Australia, so my ping is not low enough to machinegun anything.

My idea: Reset to SR 3, probably Ranger 3 SR 3, but i have a Didel Grand Cross, so not sure yet on Ranger 3, it could become QS 3 SR 3.

2 - AA Chaplain + PD 3:1 SPR/CON
cleric 1 -> Krivis 1 -> Priest 3 -> Chaplain -> Plague Doctor 2
Currently lvl 224 lvl 3 PD

Reason: Firstly, I took Krivis 1 because Zalciai was really nice and made me crit a lot during lvl up, but now it got nerfed and stopped being useful. Now i only have Krivis for Daino lvl 5, which is a waste os rank since you can buy Daino scrolls, and my zaibas is good for nothing with no Int. Secondly, I didn’t get Exorcism from Priest because of my Int, so my Chaplain is just for Last Rites and Asphellium, which are nice to an AA, but I have 5 wasted skill points imo.

My Idea: INQUISITOR!

  • DPS supportish: cleric 2 -> priest 2 -> monk 1 -> oracle 1 -> kabbalist 1 -> inquisitor DEX:Con
    Pros: Can deal great more sustained damage, priest attributes free, more heals, SP battery with no SPR and some immunity from oracle with a little bonus to monk stamina usage.
    Cons: I will have to drink my only stat reset potion and I’ve never played with monk or oracle before.

  • Support dpsish: cleric 2 -> priest 1 or diev 1 -> paly 3 -> PD 1 -> Inquisitor DEX:Con
    Pros: Can deal great burst damage, priest attributes free, more support skills than the first one and also I have experience with Paladins.
    Cons: I will have to drink my only stat reset potion

  • Support only: cleric 2 -> krivis 1 -> paly 3 -> pardoner 1 -> inquisitor SPR:Con
    Pros: Magic will be no problem with my high SPR, barrier, resist elements and Increased Magic Defense. Discerning Evil extend the duration of MM debuff, I can “sell / supply alts” barrier and daino scroll and can spare my stat reset potion.
    Cons: No immunity from status ailments, poor dps (no str or dex), based on an old school build so it could be a “not good enough build” nowadays.

Thanks for reading till here, and i`m sorry it was that long, but there are a lot of ideas in my mind :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

In sum I would like to know which of my toons are worst, the archer or the cleric one, and what do you guys think of my ideas.

Cheers!

#2

Nobody for the rescue?? :disappointed_relieved:

#3

What’s the missing rank in your musk build?

Your proposed inquis builds are all odd, seems to pick up the least synergistic things in each one.

#4

Hey, thx for the reply…

Its actually archer 3 -> qs3 -> musk 2, thx for pointing that out!

Why do you say the inquis builds are odd? In my little research i found out they are pretty good :confused:

Being more specific:
cleric 2 -> heal, safety zone attr, divine might and fade
priest 2 -> ress, revive, mass heal, monstrance, and some help from bless, sacrament and aspersion
monk 1 -> every skill can be spread by inquis wheel and I could use some filler skills between cooldowns
oracle 1 -> Prophecy immunities since i`m not taking PD in rank 7, also counter spell and arcane energy helps
kaba 1 -> revenge can combo with inqui skills and Ein Sof makes me a SP battery

#5

monk1

paladin 3

no subsequent ranks have synergy

What don’t you understand?

#6

Imo paly 3 is a good support class, Turn Undead can insta-kill high hp mobs, Resist Elements helps with the magic mobs, i don`t need to buy barrier scrolls and conviction + god smash combo

#7

And you’d be wrong.

Fortunately you have the chance to not mess up your character again.

#8

You seriously think that Cleric2-Priest1-PLD3-PD1-Inquis1 has no synergy? Are you ignorant or just trolling?

Priest for Resurrection and 1 point in monstrance for massive Dex boost.
Paladin3 for Conviction to extremely boost all strike damage.
Plague Doctor for spreading Conviction for a huge boost in aoe damage.

It’s like the best PVE physical inquisitor build, the only debatable thing is Monk instead of Plague Doctor.

The other two are kinda trash though.

#9

Not trolling, consider again what he is rolling the build for and stop trying to justify your own bad decisions by convincing someone else to partake in your misery.

You could waste 3 ranks in paladin or you could be literally anything else.

#10

I was told ingame that the monk / kabba build would be more to pvp, is that right?

So for you i should reset the cleric, right?

#11

Please don’t feel bad, i`m interested in your point of view, but could you explain why paly 3 is that bad for you?

What inqui build do you have in mind?

Thx.

#12

Barrier scrolls exist, Ausrine exists, Conversion is borked, Smite/Conviction isn’t as good you’d like it to be, Turn Undead what is that? Chaplain is a much better support option? I dunno what else speaking as someone who was exactly the same build you mentioned in the Paladin thread and ignored your post because I didn’t want to argue since you’re obviously dead set on making a mistake.

Because dude why even ask when you’re just going to do it. You just want to sit here on the forums and ignore what other people say then pretend you’re right. Go ahead be a Paladin3 and you tell us later what’s wrong with the build. =P

#13

Paladin provides a couple mediocre buffs at best and some DPS skills you will never use past rank 6.

And for three ranks, you can get a skill that you could have just bought in scroll form. And conviction, which is the one skill that synergizes with like one skill you have as an inquis (2 I guess?).

You will never be invited to groups to do anything, because your class can be summed up in a scroll, and you have thrown 3 ranks away to even get that skill.

edit: Sorry. As for my suggestion, it would be to reroll your musk to SR3. I say this because ranger3/SR3 is easily usable in PVE at end game content, and you can actually do things. However, wait until you hit rank 7 first before using the scroll.

Musketeer is (was, lol missile hole) good at PVP, but terrible in PVE content. Very low sustained DPS. You could even keep QS3 if you wanted when you go SR3, as, while many people believe it’s not as “futureproof” as ranger3 (lol), it’s still great.

#14

No i`m not… I think the worst toon is my archer, not the cleric.
I appreciate your opinion, can you tell me any other build would be better for an inqui?

Thx man!

#15

Build the normal and powerful hause inqui Cleric C2>DievC3>Miko>Kaba/Oracle/priest>Inqui this build is good on pvp and pve with some int or well upgrade weapons and its so much better than pali>inqui

#16

Thx Csiko,

You are just confirming my fears, since i`ve never played rank 7 / 8 content I don’t have any experience at which skill continue to be usefull.

Yeah, i`m already rank 7, just waiting to set my mind to reset!

#17

First off, Conviction alone is worth going Paladin for a Inquisitor build, do you even play this build or are you just walking about theory crafting? The amount of damage a PLD/Inquisitor can do is actually pretty crazy.

Second, Smite is not useless it’s actually one of the better early rank physical attacks in the game, especially since it hits multiple times with Conviction. It still hits pretty damn hard at level 320, maybe it changes at 330 then? You tell me.

Third, Barrier has an attribute now that makes you take 30% less range damage. Hey guess what’s one of the only few things that can hit you while in Barrier? Think about it.

So basically you’re saying that this build is bad because it’s not meta for one thing; Earth Tower? Pretty sure I’ve or my friend has never had a problem doing any content in the game, but I haven’t tried Solmiki yet, have you? Please enlighten me so I understand what makes you think it’s bad.

Or are you one of those people who only think Diev3 is viable in anything?

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#18

Now i’m intrigued, why is that a good inqui build?
Cleric 2 + Diev 3 + Miko + PD 2 makes more sense, no? Debuffs from statues increase incineration duration while owl and hamaya melt things down.

#19

It’s pretty much the most overpowered cleric build atm. Agny and Miko makes it extremely strong in both pvp and pve.

Agny doubles Incinerates damage.

The build has extremely good aoe thanks to Owls, Incinerate, Plague Vapors and Pandemic. No hit count on anything.

100% up-time statues with Clap, Ausrine and World Tree are some of the most pve/pvp breaking skills in the game.

Hamaya is a smaller radius, more powerful, flying-hitting version of Frost Cloud.

Gohei removes all debuffs in the game except a very very select few in pvp.

Kagura Dance is really good too, forgot to mention this.

The only down side is having to do the Miko quest (which probably isn’t that hard anymore since its been a few weeks) It was really bad when I did it the first couple days.

#20

Smite hits hard really only against targets that it is strong against. Ungodly hard so I’ll give you that one if you can nail the right enemies. Conviction though the additional hits don’t scale like the initial one so that’s something they should look into maybe fixing.

Barrier is a weird thing to me. The response most people are going to tell you is that being completely immune to all damage is going to be better than attempting to do the same thing with Barrier/Resist Elements. If they scaled the flat MDEF per skill rank better on it then that would be more acceptable since magic damage is more of a problem than physical in my opinion to negate.

The thing that I’ve always wondered is how well the Resist Elements + Conviction debuffs synergize with other magical classes for damage. Somewhere along the line it could prove effective and can’t exactly be discredited until tested. I don’t have the patience or time for dealing with IMC’s new systems to play and figure this stuff out.