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[HELP] Peltasta C3 or Rodelero C3 + Shinobi?

Hey there! I’ve re-rolled my swordie for the 4th time already (in pursue of a tanky yet bursty Shinobi). My plan for achieving so is to go SW=>Pelt2=>Rod2=>(Pelt3//Rod3)=>Shinobi =>Murmillo, and, so far, my build looks like this: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/?reference=3o4dk01m5p

Now, as the title suggest, I’m about to reach rank 6 and I can’t decide which choice would be better in the long run. Analizing the data on the simulator from a theorycrafting point of view, here are the CONS and PROS I could realize so far:

PELTASTA
PROS

  • Armor debuff (Umbo Thrust): possible a good idea since Kunai’s damage is piercing type and High Kick won’t help that (besides, not all Murmillo skills are strike type).
  • Higher bonuses on High Guard or Guardian (if I decide to sacrifice some damage).
    -Lv 15 SB, Umbo/Rim Blow (for bunshin copy purposes).
    CONS
  • Butterfly doesn’t seem as strong as Shooting Star.
  • I’ll be lacking High Kick.

RODELERO
PROS

  • High Kick (dat strike damage)
  • Shooting Star damage tooltip seems stronger than Butterfly.
  • Since Rod skills seem to hit harder than Umbo/Rim Blow, I’d assume overall damage with/without the shinobi clones would be greater.
  • Better debuff potential.
    CONS
  • Kunai and Evade Thrust won’t get any benefit from Slithering nor High Kick.
  • No chance to further improve SB/Guardian/High Guard (no wonder if I’d really need those in the high-end game).

As you can see, all the previous assumptions were made from theorycrafting alone and I’ve got little to no information from actual gameplay that can help me solve this dilemma. So if anyone is kind enough to enlighten me I will really appreciate it, since I wouldn’t like to re-roll again T.T

definitely rodelero 3, its much stronger.
pelt 2 rode 3 shinobi murmilo.
Shooting star is also multi hit so it’s much better

You can go with Sw2Pelt1Rod3ShinobiMurmilo
In order to get longer time with pain barrier and concentration with restrain for pvp or dealing with mobs.

My other build which is what I am currently building to is Sw1PeltHop1Rod3ShinobiMurmilo, I like shield and spear build. Spear is the better weapon for most swordsman class and it has a longer range so I can hit mobs better. This is the problem with Rodelero is that there are different hitboxes for its skills. So hitting your skills to the enemy is a frustrating mini game. Very inconsistent.