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Help a proud (and a bit brainless) newbie swordie

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Sorry my english!
Edit: I only want pve

Hi!

I began to play a days ago, and now i need help about my first char could be good to mid and end game. My first idea about the building was to do a hybrid semi-tank and semi-dps spear auto-attack hoplite-doppel c2 (for ro players, something like blacksmith auto buffed), focused on aoe damage, with a sword or two handed sword on alt+z. Im planning swordie>peltasta (for swash)>hoplite c2 (for finestra)>swordie c2 (for the stun skill)>doppel c2 (for deeds of valor and cyclone, the others skills are for 2h swords)> ??? (maybe doppel c3, maybe dragon).

But after these option, i discover for that porpouse its better the barb-doppel route with two handed sword (i create a new char for these), and i think that my build will be a bad version of a barb-doppel. At the moment, i dont know if my first char can be rebuilded to be a nice char. Except pure and exclusive support (im ok with hybrid supports) and afk sellers, i like all the roles. I show you my actual status and maybe you can helpme to rebuild my char (actually lvl 97-10 rank 4).

(im not sure about the link works… http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/2ve86sj5oh/)

Swordman (Thrust 1, Bash 3, Gung Ho 5, Concentrate 5, Pain Barrier 1)
Peltasta (Umbo 4, Rimbo 1, Swash 5, Guardian 5)
Hoplite C2 (Stabbing 8, Pierce 3, Finestra 10, Syncro 1, Long Stride 1, Spear Lunge 1,+ skill points avaible)

About stats i was trying 2:1:1 str/con/dex, exactly (showed-invest) 101-58 str, 44-21 con, 42-30 dex, but im a bit confused, some times i read that for dps its better full dex, con its only for pvp.

Finally, my questions :smiley:

  1. From here, what are my options with my char?

  2. Whats its the better option for end-game to these char? Time to delete and free a slot?

  3. Without enter on depth, a dps can equip a shield or the off hand weapon are very important? Can someone aproximated a percent of the final damage that add the off-hand weapon?

  4. Its okey go ahead with the 2:1:1 str-con-dex stats build?

I looked some options, like these that maybe works, and maybe had space to delete one circle of hoplite and shinobi to add doppel c2:

Thanks for reading!

#2

Alright I’ll walk you through a little bit.

First off: Dex > Str always (don’t put any Str, just 80-100 Con, rest Dex)
And don’t follow TosBase builds point for point. Most of them are…untested, to say the least.

Stopping at Doppel2 is bad - It’s Doppel 3 for DPS or 1 for Utility but not in between Hoplite + Doppel is bad (Redel, Zorn, Zucken, Zwerch and Sturtz all require 2H sword but Finestra only works with spears).
You can always shift gears on that char and go:
Sword > Pelt > Hop3 > Doppel1/Sword2 > Dragoon2 (very normal build and not too bad)

As for Skills:
Swordsman -> Max Pain Barrier and in case of Sword2+ Restrain. Gung Ho3 for the attribute (or 0 if you use Peltasta’s Guardian 100% of the time), Bash3 for the Knockdown Attribute, rest Concentrate (Thrust in rare cases)
Peltasta -> Swash5, Guardian5, 1 Umbo, rest is irrelevant
Hoplite -> Finestra Max, Stabbing Max, Spear Lunge 1 at least, Spear Throw Max, no Synchro Thrusting unless you want to go for Shinobi (since Shinobi clones can copy it - which makes me wonder why it wasn’t picked in your link)

HopCorShinobis are a little weak in current content since their damage mostly comes from max Rank6 skills amplified by clones. They were pretty good in Rank7 content but fell off after that. We don’t know if Corsair will become better in the future but they are a little underwhelming currently (just warning you, but play one if you like their flavour).

As for Barb Doppels:
Go for it. Great DPS and a 2H Sword but ask someone else to chew the info for you. I have less knowledge about them.

Read through the forum for infos on classes. The forum is probably your best shot for info next to finding a high level char in game with the classes you want to know about.
Just some friendly advise.

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#3

Thanks a lot! After you guide im able to go ahead with the char :smiley:

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