Hello, please help with the selection, go to the dragoon and choose between Hoplite and Cataphract-c3-c3 have Cataphract like mass strikes and mobility and at Hoplite Spear Throw which have strengthened and buff to a critical hit
Say not it be bad if I choose Cataphract-c3 - Dragun? I read that the Cataphract skills of the Korean server was enhanced, we introduce it?
Will throw Spear Throw at higher levels?
Tell advantages of both options?
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The question you should ask yourself
pvp or pve?
hoplite 3 = pve build
cataphract 3 = pvp build.
They are hard to compare because they have different purposes
Hoplite is a great pve class with amazing damage but bad at pvp
Cataphract is a great pvp class with amazing utility but bad at pve
if you just want to make tons of damage i wouldn’t go cataphract.
Sorry forgot to add I am interested in PvE, I want to kill large groups monsters aoe skills like at Cataphract they are very good why do not you recommend it?
cataphract’s damage falls of at late game
hoplite is better at pve because it provides amazing skills such as finestra, stabbing, and spear throw
both stabbing and spear throw are aoe and makes tons of damage more than any cataprhact skill.
Do you think that throwing a spear at a high level will do more damage than Cataphract skills?
By the way if I am not mistaken javelin throw strengthened and it makes 3 shocks for the use of
Yes, cos it’s a 0cd skill and you can spam it till the poor monster dies.
Debatable, any Hop3 with 1 circle of Corsair is gonna be viable to PvP due to Hook>Stride
Cataphract recently got a huge buff to all skills in KTOS, rush got a 1.5 modifier that is great when you think about transcendance and future 330+ weapons.
Cata3 you only get rush (45cd), earth wave/doom spike also got buffed but they still weak.
Hop3 you get sustain aoe damage and way better single target.
By the way here is the data from the Korean servers, if we wait long for it?
Cataphract:
► Impaler
○ Attack increase is now 200%. (Previously 100%)
► Earth Wave
○ Attack increase is now 150%. (Previously 100%)
► Steed Charge
○ Attack increase is now 300%. (Previously 100%)
► Doom Spike
○ Attack increase is now 200%. (Previously 100%)
► Rush
○ Attack increase is now 150%. (Previously 100%)
even after those buffs hoplite is stronger than a cataphract in pve
i got both, my lvl 320 catpahract 3 lancer is weaker than my lvl 250 hoplite 3 dragoon in terms of dps.
Tell me who take after Hoplite-c3 , Cataphract-Dragoon or Doppelsoeldnert-Dragoon and why ?
I liked this video Cataphract-с3
like a very good aoe damage , what do you think ?
doppel dragoon definitely, 50% bonus attack is better. not to mention cyclone
As I said the only good aoe skill from cata is rush with a 45 cd.
Hop3>doppel gets spear throw/dov/finestra/ cyclone(8sec vs 10sec from rush).
Theres no comparison PvE wise, hop3 is much better.
Hi all, any recommendation on how to stat sw>pelt>hop3>doppel>dragoon2 ??? High str or High dex? Thanks !
Go High Dex, the latest Gem/Costume attribute update, made Str close if not obsolete in new meta.
My Current stats at lv 185. I guess I should start pumping dex now all the way.
I don’t think we have those buffs yet. Unless you mean you have those characters on kToS.
the buffs aren’t going to make cataphract stronger than hoplite in pve, tthe damage difference is waay too much
they really buffed the hell out of hoplites so i don’t think cata can match that in terms of pve.
im saying this as a player who love cataphracts.
Hoplite C3 is better all the way through, after playing cata c3 I realized that the class was really made for R4-R6 (75-170). Back in the day (beta days) earth wave was so fun to use, trot makes you run fast, and rush is so-so. But vs lv300-330 mobs, you will not do enough damage to kill them with just cata skills. Heck even solo grinding at lv200+ cata starts to feel weak. The cool down on skills are too annoying to deal with. I have a catagoon and lancer and frankly I hate both already and made the switch to the slow moving hoplite.
As for Hoplite, you use spear throw and all mobs die. Even vs cloth or ghost spear throw is still good. There is nothing that beats a skill that does a lot of damage and has 0cd. As for hoplite build, I put all points on dex, use 7 *10 ellaganos and 1 *10 gazing golem.
again if the only reason you took cata is for pve, then ofc its weak
its a pvp class.
No I have a lancer which was exclusively for pvp, the catagoon I raised was originally meant for pve since I didn’t believe that builds and classes at that time was exclusive for one purpose. The speed and the damage I thought at the time was reliable to exploration and farming, in which I did like but I didn’t consider later levels 200+ and was ignorant of the fact that “elite mobs” possessed 100k+ hp.