But the part I quoted was:
So your suggested system can and will get abused…
The +40 enhancement cap is extremely inefficient as far as return per investment goes and the low chance + high price of remotely reaching there is extremely discouraging.
But some insane person will still go for it.
And people already do GvG, despite all of its discouraging effects that I mentioned, so you’re already wrong in that regard.
Just because these kind of systems are abused in other games it doesn’t mean the same WILL happen here. Seriously, what? How many times have i stated that it can be dealt with! It - can - be - dealt - with! What the heck dude… You’re not even reading, i give up of trying to make you understand. Believe whatever you want to and don’t be so impressed when some sort of reward system pops up in the game…
Dude, who is even talking about something outside of GvG here and GVG SUGGESTION. This is off topic stop missing the point ffs.
Can you please post me a proof of ongoing GvG in iToS? I would love to see it. Again this is a Suggestion and not somthing that already exists. Stop missing the point and the whole topic by a wide margin.
Edit: Please start talking about GvG Suggestion or I will start flagging all your posts that don’t cover this topic in any way, that includes cash shop, enchantments, ect. Because this is getting frustrating for no reason, since most of this arguments don’t even cover the what should be said in this thread.
So you want me to argue with facts, I use YOUR facts to argue against you.
And now you say it will not happen here because…nothing?
If it really ‘can’ be dealt with, why did it get abused in ‘quite a couple amount of other games’? What makes ToS some kind of unique snowflake that will prevent such abuse?
Limit how many points to earn? That only limit how much they can do, not stop the act itself.
The point is that the Dev can (and do, as with the +40 cap) make something ‘pointless and discouraging that nobody will use’ because turns out SOMEBODY will use it. The +40 cap is just example from inside ToS itself (in icbt2 I’ve seen someone with +26)
Oh I am sorry that in your world only iToS exist and kToS or other version is so beneath your grace that they does not count to be worth considering as examples.
Also, I believe I’ve been maintaining that adding rewards to GvG will make players try to abuse/game the system for said rewards without actually doing PvP?
p.s. ‘threads’ with too many flags will get locked so I don’t believe flagging me is in your best interest.
@rofldat This is iToS and not kToS, a totally different community with different preferences. Flagged the last post and done with this nonsense.
Have a nice day.
I’m sure you’ll make up some excuse like “oh but they haven’t actually GvG yet” or such anyway but here’s a guild aiming to do GvG,
in iToS,
without this suggested reward system:
As i’ve stated before, i’m the leader of a big guild, we will be GvGing. And still i would like to see some reward system added to it. You are either a troll or trying really hard not to understand anything at all. There are people that will like this suggestion and people that wont, as i said before, i’m fine with criticism when there’s some logic behind it, which you clearly lack in each of your arguments… So whatever you say, i don’t think anybody cares anymore 
I said it’ll get abused.
You said other games have similar system and that it does get abused.
I believe I’ve also said on why suggestions like ‘just limit how much points they can get’ doesn’t solve the issue.
So what have I not shot you down yet? Feel free to reminds me.
Or if you’ve truly stop caring then feel free to not reply.
Shoot me down? You’ll need valid arguments for that, lmao. Just go troll someone’s elses thread, i wont repeat my point anymore, i’m convinced that you’re just an ignorant person. Not that i care tho, that’s your problem
I’m just glad that everyone else that commented so far knows better and do have some constructive criticism! But well, if you want to believe in this:
While the game is still in Beta and clearly the devs didn’t finish the GvG system, go ahead, nobody cares really.
I’ll just wait and see if some smarter people comment like the ones who did before you 
peace!
Or you’re afraid that I’m right.
For someone who claims he doesn’t care, you sure seem to like replying to me.
Can you please read his previous posts. There is also a high chance you didn’t read or have forgotten them with such an answer. Yes he said all those, so there is no reason for him to repeat himself.
Your arguments are bad. I am already expecting your next post to be something already said.
Once again since as it seems you forgot this as well. Stop talking on this something that doesn’t concern GvG Suggestion. And no need to repeat yourself, we all read and can reread your previous posts.
I wish there was a way to ban a person from posting on this topic since all of your answers BESIDES THE VERY FIRST ONES on this thread are off topic.
I really appreciate your ideas that you shared with us, no reason to argue over non topic related stuff. Make a chat room if you have such concerns.
Edit: If you replay on this with something non GvG suggestion related, it will show how ignorant you are and do not read previous posts. Also if you post 1 more thing off topic related I will draw a Staff attention on this and your comments. Stop arguing, this is my last warning.
Yeah yeah, whatever you say kiddo.
Forgotten them, hence the request.
Is there really no need for him to repeat himself? I have repeat my own statement constantly:
This very much concern his suggestion, which, I’LL REPEAT, he admitted similar system existed in other games and that they DO get abused.
The suggestion I remembered is limiting how much points can be earned in a period of time. But that only puts a limit of how much they farm before stopping rather than preventing them from abusing it.
If there are others suggestion I forgot, I asked that he pointed out, and he just simply called me a troll and dismiss it because what? That I am apparently a troll because I am not convinced his suggestion won’t get abused?
And you bash me for being offtopic, and your post is about bashing me and NOT discussing the suggestion itself.
Now who’s the one NOT discussing here?
Oh btw, I guess you weren’t serious when you said:
Just because you want to repeat yourself over and over it doesn’t mean we will be doing it. We are smarter than that, we can actually scroll up and re-read things. We already stated more than one way to prevent abusing, you just don’t want to read it, so whatever. You’re just talking about nonsense at this point.
@Staff_Julie Can you please look up on his posts in this thread? Many of them are repetitive, off topic, aggressive, rude, provoking, disturbing. I gave him warnings but he ignored them all.
Some examples of his posts:
Offensive:
Provocative:
Off Topic:
Very well, if you want to get into the guideline, let me also quote this:
Personal attack on me and degrading my opinion (which you’ll say something like “it’s nonsense anyway”)
(and also an off topic post)
If you just want to make staff notice my post, simply flagging + giving reason would do enough, but that you decide to make it a post would make it an open attack against me.
So let me recount, the suggestions I remember on ‘preventing’ the abuse and why it doesn’t really work to prevent it:
Limit the amount of points per period - only limits how long they’ll farm the point for (the periodic cap), not prevent the action itself.
Prevent a guild from declaring war on the same guild again for X period of time, that’d prevent 2 rival guilds from constantly being in state of war (I’m pretty sure the Giltine guild plan to do that) so you’re hurting legitimate GvG guild as well.
Make the items account/character bound - again, just limit how much they do it (til they get the item they want), not prevent it. Also once the guilds got all the items they want they lose the incentive to do GvG so you’re back to the pre-reward state where only guilds that want to do GvG for the PvP do it.
@kristipomo @wyrmplays @rofldat
It seems like everyone had a share of their opinion here. If you’re unable to convince each other, there’s no issue with that, but it looks like this has turned into a constant relay of disagreeing with each other.
This argument was rather mild so I’d just like to kindly request that everyone stop commenting on each other’s interpretation of text from this point on.
You could’ve ripped each other apart using nasty terminology, but you didn’t, and I really appreciate the effort everyone made to keep the discussion from going extreme.
If you feel you’ve been wrongly dismissed, please send me a private message.
Thank you.
As requested i’ll not bother with it anymore nor make the discussion any longer. Please allow me to take a step back and apologize for it. I didn’t think it was necessary for a staff member to be bothered with this, but then again, thank you @kristipomo for calling it out and thank you @Staff_Julie for being so responsive!
I’ll just wait up for new comments on the topic, i’m glad it has not been closed because of that argument
I didnt read any comment to this thread, but a reward system for that would be more as shitty !
We have 2 guilds and could ez farm rewards …
farming custom items? lol
Thankfully somebody understood that farming it wont change anything at all…
Thanks @ralf_lopes