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Guild Emblem - Why force people to have an image border?

Hi IMC, such as @STAFF_Letitia poke poke hint hint.

This is a pretty minor nitpick in the overall grand scheme of things but I wanted to bring to your attention a design decision that’s either been overlooked or I simply disagree with.

Guild emblems are a nice feature, however the current implementation forces guilds to have a square black border. The system would empower players more if this were not the case.

Case in point, Ragnarok Online did not force users to have a black border and it allowed lots of interesting shapes to the guild emblems compared to just being a boring square.

For example, look at this emblem I just screenshotted. They’re using transparency, but because the black border is forced, there is little reason for them to use transparency:

It would look better for them if it were just the rectangle plank of wood wearing a bikini.

And, for example. This is one of the emblems my guild Axis Order uses in other games:

Compare that to what we’ll have to use for tos because of the black square border the game uses:

Ignore colouration/quality/size differences. You get the point, we’re going to have to use a coloured background to fill out the square.

Please remove this black border. If guilds want a border on their emblems they will make it themselves. The current implementation reduces choices, removing the border gives more freedom and choice to make things look much better.

Thanks!

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A popular criticism, Renaissance is having a contest in our guild to make an emblem and it’s causing trouble for the artists. I can’t see a reason justifying it.

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It looks more like a dropshadow effect to make the emblem more prominent. Yeah it is causing a lot of problems if we want transparency.

I so want my guild emblem to be without borders too ><.

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My reasoning is that they use a border on other screens, such as the guild menu and likely on results/victory screens for gvg content that we have not seen yet.

Those screens will need redesigning to be borderless too. It’s significantly better to give players the job of making the appearance of their guild good. It’s in the player’s interests to do that anyway to attract other players so there’s no reason to really take power away from them.

Players can make their own unique and interesting borders if they want them. Like the variety of shapes you see in RO. None of which are possible with the border added by tos.

Someone at IMC should try out actually making and running a guild. Getting people to remain active. Contending with player churn. Providing organisation to activities or things people need. As well as these little administrative things that eat up time.

It’s a super minor nitpick but we definitely care about it. Lots of good artists in the tos community and this takes away things they can do or come up with.

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Oh well, think we just have to work with the restrictions then, this probably wouldn’t be one of their priorities to fix now. Maybe try a reverse cut out? Might look cool though, I need to think of the color contrast and how to get a nice looking cutout emblem.

Cutouts are nice but in some cases with the background it looks hideous ><

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You’re forced to make all colors opaque I guess. They do need to make the background transparent instead of a border or dropshadow.

They already fixed this on k-test.

Nice, now is time to wait for it to be implemented on iToS

im waiting for that ro card emblem…

Cool, I’m just waiting this change to put my emblem on.

Sighz I uploaded my emblem but i forgot the alpha transparency zzz. 12million T____T

I can’t agree more on this. They need to let we change the emblem once for free, them next time you need to pay…

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