Thanks XD
I’m surprised how much I’m enjoying the build and,as said in other topics,corsair 1 has pretty much everything I want from corsair and pelt is awesome for me!
Go,go,fencer build!
Asked the same question a few hundred (or thousand) posts back.
Thanks but I don’t get how venier beats the other rapiers.
Would catacombs rapier be better because of the critical bonus?I would get an extra of 140% out of that bonus,it seems to beat with all skills excluding balestra and flash.
I believe you lose out your damage. I’ve tested it just now (Venier vs. Spada comparison). No debuffs applied and tested vs. Cloth monster. Composee attribute @ level 70. +10 Venier with level 1 trans and 2 green gems, No enhancement, gems and trans for Spada.
W/ Venier - 7120 damage
W/ Spada - 5887 damage
Yes but catacombs have 202 of critical attack.With epee garde lv 7,it reachs 484.Wouldn’t it be a better bonus than venier itself?
You didn’t seem to understand my reply. Even when you buff yourself with Epee while equipped with Venier, you will lose out the +2 skill it grants on Epee the moment you switch yourself to another rapier. Your Epee buff goes down to 100%.
This is the main dilemma of Fencers, not having +2 skill weapon, you lose out quite an amount of damage because 140%>100%. A measly 484 flat damage won’t cover up the damage loss of not having 40% additional crit damage.
Here is a comparison of the two weapons, My Spada has higher patk than Venier but Venier still outdamages it when I tested it. Why? Because as I said the moment you switch your weapons you lose the additional 40% from Epee. Which is why Venier will still be the best weapon for Fencers (not unless you can craft Lolo/Solmiki Rapier)
That’s what I wanted to know,I thought you didn’t lose the 40% bonus.If you lose it,venier will be superior.
You don’t lose out the 40% when you switch. This has been tested since October.
I just noticed,with venier,it’s +160 with compose…I guess it’s better to switch venier with another rapier if the “other rapier” is transcended then since it will have an higher attack 
Am I right?
Yes and no in the long run. Yes, fencer 2 skills will be noticeable stronger once you do trans 4 comparison, but your balestra and flash will suffer minor damage.
Stupid question…Is it worth to invest on glass mole for a fencer?Their physical attack seems low compared to a doppel or dragoon so I thought about invest on nuaeles or nuaeles and ellaganos on mine .-.
I started to change my Ellaganos to Glass Moles for my Fencer - while it is not a big dmg increase i still deal about 25%-30% more dmg with the Glass Moles.
For a Fencer every tiny bit of PAtk does matter!
Take into account that i use my Fencer atm mostly for Solmiki Runs and we have a Krivis there.
Also with Full Dex in stat points u´ll have about 950+ Crit Rate after Monstrance and Quicken (+25% Crit Rate with attribute) - I use Phadas so i dont have the additional 72 Crit Rate Sissel offers -> if u have those aswell u should be fine with Crit Rate.
After changing i´ve to say - i wont regret it!
The calculation is somewhat incorrect. U only use Skills so u have ur enhance attribute and Rapier Mastery:Aggression aswell.
In my case: 95%Attaque Composee +15% Aggression
202 CAtk
Cloth Type: 202 CAtk * (1+0.95+0.15) * (1+1,4) * (0,5) = 509 Dmg increase on every hit Composee
Plate Type: 202 CAtk * (1+0.95+0.15) * (1+1,4) * (1) = 1018 Dmg increase on every hit Composee
Plate Type: 202 CAtk * (1+0.95+0.15) * (1+1,4) * (1,5) = 1527 Dmg increase on every hit Composee
Now Venier Prop Atk: (Dont forget most monsters deal additional Holy Dmg (2))
286 Holy Porp Atk
Cloth Type (2862) * (1+0.95+0.15) * (1+1,4) * (0,5) = 1441 Dmg increase on every hit Composee
Plate Type (2862) * (1+0.95+0.15) * (1+1,4) * (1) = 2882 Dmg increase on every hit Composee
Leather Type (2862) * (1+0.95+0.15) * (1+1,4) * (1) = 4324 Dmg increase on every hit Composee
Divide the dmg by 2 if u face an enemy which isnt weak to Holy (basicly more than half of monster are weak to it)
Only ur own multipliers are taken into account here -> in Grp play Divine Might (Epee Garde is now 2,6 multiplier), Serpentine, Spear Lunge and so on are missing in this calculation - the dmg increase would be even higher.
Dont forget that every point of Ele prop attack gets mutliplied by Epee Garde/Enhance/Armor Type/etc. aswell (The same way Crit Attack does get multiplied).
Taking that into account Venier is better than Cata Rapier. (venier has 286 Holy Prop while Cata has 202 CAtk)
Thats why u should focus on Yellow Gems in the weapon and Red Gems in ur offhand, tbh. -> The dmg increase is huge.
For Fencers the most important thing is the Enhance Attribute -> max it asap The increase is worth it.
Welp,venier is my destiny it seems.I’ll have blessed shards to sell instea dof using for myself and be able to upgrade my atributes at least XD
So,would glass mole be good to use with preparation combo?I’m still a bit skepitical about my mdef I’m planning to make a shade graves and I have a lionhead shield for when the fight get ugly so,maybe,I don’t need a nuaele I guess.Just kinda scary 'cause my ex-main has 7 nuaele,I have no idea how much the mobs hits with lower mdef XD
I never had any MDef Cards, and did fine questing there - Thats it with Restrain and Dust Devil, Hook and overwhelming enemies before they can retaliate.
Also in a grp u are the carry in Dmg cuz of those multipliers - abuse them and neglect Def, thats what i´m doing.
Sure Glass Mole with preperation is crazy amounts of dmg - my Sept hits almost 100k per hit
So I guess I don’t need to worry then.
My build is pretty much equal yours though I picked concentration so I can use a damage buff with guardian.The rest seems equal.The fencer part I based on yours since it seemed the most interesting to me.
I guess I’m safe on most stuff.Thanks for all replies everyone,Silute got a new fencer!
anybody have tried an full STR doppel like McLaughlin? i want to know how effective are the build ‘-’
How much is an aoe attack headgear on your servers?
@Sera1003 hi Sera not sure if you posted it already, what is your armor set during your solmiki runs??
Non Boss Floors:
Vubbe Gauntlets, Virtov Leather Top/Pants and Boots
Boss Floors:
Full Virtov Leather
Dunno, never seen one in the last weeks - but Fedimian is an empty Server.
I did got one as a present, and the others very fairly cheap (I have them a long time now)
I think you’ve answered this too already but would like to clarify why you go for Virtov? is it more of the additional dmg? or is it because it is much cheaper? Can you elaborate more what is the pros of using virtov?
Someone shouted (the headgear) on our server for 9m lul, i guess it’s OP.