Oh…
I did not know this x.x
( im going barb C3 )
So later on i will just use gardian ? (for swordman)
Warcry (Barb)
Oh yeah i want to know something about frenzy.
Does it stack with skills ? Does it give much dps for sklls ?
If i must auto attack it isnt worth it no ?
You should auto attack first for frenzy to stack, with barb c3 stacking frenzy is easy because you have the attribute to keep your stacks when changing targets, it will cut max stacks into half, but it is still good.
them damage you got from frenzy works on skills once you’ve stacked them.
It’s worth if you don’t waste too much time stacking it, this is why it’s good on barb 3. So on longer fights it’s good.
Later on you will still use both Guardian and Gung-ho.
Here’s a few samples:
Guardian:
Tanking/Taunting in parties
Soloing a hard map with physical monsters
Gung-Ho:
On areas filled with mages
On monsters you can kill with 1 skill (or require less hits), with gung-ho active
The problem is we must know all ranks to not f*** our build/ to get a really good one
i dont think getting frenzy is good on fen2.
my fen2 never uses autoattack anymore due to compose and flancon.
frenzy is good on barb doppel because of their idiotic high cd skills, since you will be forced to AA once every skill goes to cd.
there’s still room for it when your pots are on cooldown or when you’re still gathering mobs before the massacre phase, but I don’t recommend it all too well, it’s only better to use on barb 3 because it’s so much easier to stack.
Yeah i know… then c3 barb isnt this usefull…
However if i take corsair 1 then i MUST take corsair 2 BUT if i take fencer c3 then i can get just 1 new class…
But it’s all theory because i dont know if fencer c3 will be usefull or the new class have a super synergie with fencer
most people proceed with barb 3 for the best warcry possible and pouncing. both have high cooldowns but they were buffed in korean version
yes if you use the 45s cd pots, but with alc pot, I can spam my compose all day (its level 3 though, if you get it higher no idea)[quote=“wtznael, post:627, topic:300257”]
However if i take corsair 1 then i MUST take corsair 2 BUT if i take fencer c3 then i can get just 1 new class
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not really. cor1 is good for hook and dust devil, jolly help a little (very little) with money too and chance to block damage if you are in pt.
also if you took cor1, you can take cor2 at r8 incase fen3 bad
this LoL, this skill can hit up to 25 times -.-
i can do about 100k with 1 pounce with my barb doppel.
[quote=“Lostac, post:628, topic:300257, full:true”] barb 3 for the best warcry possible and pouncing.
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Yeah warcry and pouncing but maxing warcry really worth a circle ? ( And pouncing but i need to do futher research about this ^^ )
Hook is more for pvp ( but why not 
), jolly i know but i will take it ( if i’m corsair ) but what about the block damage ?
what about Sept Etoiles lvl 15 vs Hexen Dropper lvl 5 ?
blocking is from JR attribute, read it up on tosbase, it’s very useful in parties
Sept 15 should win, but don’t forget you have /TWO/ hexen charges
2 level 5 hexens > level 15 sept
About JR : on tosbase : :" A combo is activated if multiple enemies is defeated around the Jolly Roger"
It seems to increase damage but not block damage
attribute, not the skill
Yeah just saw it lol…
you can still use hook for pve vs elite mobs if there are just 3 of them.
fen2 vs cor2, from what I see is they both the same burst.
just that cor2 have it separately (2 charges hexen) while fen2 is 1 time burst (prep +sept)
I myself enjoy fen2 more now than cor2, unless you are wielding spear, fen2 will do much better because compose filler. (deleted my cor2 swordsman, because he is inferior to my rapierman and spearman -.-)
pretty sure those that went barb 2 > corsair using swords just took that build because they hate spears. I understand them, I’ve deleted so many hoplites before I realized that
Well i think i will definitely take barb c3 and fencer c3
( but no hook for funny duel or some pvp when i will be full stuff… one day… )
I will keep my frenzy points and see if i put them here or on another skill.
Now i will just pray about fencer c3 and a new class at rank 9 that will be insane with fencer.
I am a Barb3 Fencer1 at the moment, and frankly, I hate buffs that are not 100% uptime. Not because they’re bad, but I tend to forget to reuse them. Even with the addon.
I also hate having tons of skills to use because I’m lazy. I’m considering rerolling in order to make a tankier build, maybe more ranks on peltasta, CON;DEX focused. I get more use from tank elements then damage skills in my gameplay style. My way of thinking is, if I can survive longer, my overall damage tend to be higher.
HOWEVER I cannot deny the usefulness of Barbarian in a Burst Damage Style. If you are the type who has good control on your hands, then go for it, you’re gaining more then you’re losing.
Oh, and Seism is excellent for stopping running quarrel shooters.
try a pelt 3 > corsair > fencer 2, unless you like rodelero
and about the buffs, iirc ktos warcry is 50 sec cooldown, that’s neat
Yeah, I’m pondering between redelero and corsair. I’m making one rodelero and a corsair on different characters to feel how they play. I’ll choose after this experiment.
And well, 50sec cooldown sure makes things better, though not the best.
If you dont want lots of skills, maybe just go pel3->rod3
or something along the lines of pel1, hop2, corsair2-3.
Corsair have a lot of useless skills in pve, so thats “good” 
Finestra has 100% uptime at circle2 
only 2 good skills on pel
4 on hop
4 on corsair
Long cool downs on everything, lots of auto attacking.