haven’t been on solmiki so I can’t really say
but if bosses have high pdef you know the deal
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can you try on a neutral monster? plate for example
if I’m correct, concentrate only scales once via epee garde, but stops there
gungho scales on all multipliers available so it should still be better
I don’t have a sw with concentrate atm so I can’t test it
Thanks.
I do remember somewhere where people are saying that Epee multiplies the yellow number we see so it had conflicts with monsters using Pain Barrier (where crits are shown as white)
So yes, it works based on your test
Yeah, but i have a few questions, maybe u can help me figure it out.
-I’ll have time to use high3 skills in my rotation?
-i’ll do more dmg on boss with armor break than 700+/-patq from barb buffs+dov+80% from glass moles?
-the hitbox skills from highlander won’t ■■■■ me up hitting many mobs in floors that requires aoe dmg?
Hmm in my case I always have the time to use it, even with pass cyclone has a terrible cooldown
700± PA from warcry is very nice on normal monsters, but on bosses getting that from warcry is a rare case, assuming bosses have defense like Centaurus (the map after khonot forest), skull swing imo performs better on bosses, and it also boosts all Physical damage dealers on your party.
let cryo/linkers do the job. I always carry my nulis for cases like this
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Thanks for the infos, helped me clarify some things <3
oh if you don’t mind could you do another test with composee this time, I want to see if they changed something with concentrate and attribute scaling
that’s actually not a bad number, thanks for testing. seems that it works with attributes also
That concentration talk is really interesting.
Concentrate works with epee since r8 day but mine’s level is low so not much interesting, rarely worth the buff slot, lasts almost nothing when spamming composee (10 hits) and etc so I use it only when I’m alone, but considering sw3…
Since I’ll probably reset to sw 3 too, I really wanted to try a higher level concentrate.
Too bad the scaling is not as good with dex as it is with str but since I have like ~130 STR ~400 dex it helps.
But there’s one thing: after the class reset, we can reacquire our attributes for free again, assuming you stay in the path their require but my question is: Do we still need to level bash / gung ho and etc to Lv 3 in order to get their special attributes again?
yes, cause attributes are /gone/ unlike skill reset where the attribute stays
you just retake them instead of them staying
oh sh
smart move by imc, skill reset should’ve worked that way too
I was making plans for concentrate lv 18, lol but that would require a skill reset potion t.t
I somehow cant calculate how his composee reached that much with concentrate
I did a few tests now and got this:
NEUTRAL MEDIUM MOB
GOBLIN WARRIOR
TRAINING RAPIER, CONCENTRATE [+163], COMPOSEE ATRIB LV 50
COMPOSEE CRIT: 3120
COMPOSEE CRIT + CONCENTRATE: 3283 (exactly 3120+163).
EPEE ON! (LV 5 = +100% FINAL DAMAGE ON CRITS)
COMPOSEE: 6240
COMPOSEE + CONCENTRATE = 6566 (EXACTLY +100% FINAL DAMAGE, AS IF CONCENTRATE GAVE ME 326 DAMAGE ON TOP OF THE 6240).
edit: will try another skill and blessing soon
Complementing:
I just remembered I got lv 1 thrust without enhance
THRUST LV 1, 0% attribute
CRIT: 1276
CRIT + CONCENTRATE = 1439
EPEE ON!
CRIT: 2552
CRIT + CONCENTRATE = 2878
So, attributes ain’t working, it’s was just epee’s final damage for me.
Blessing test! (+174)
COMPOSEE CRIT: 3294
COMPOSEE + BLESSING + CONCENTRATE = 3457
EPEE ON!
COMPOSEE CRIT: 6588
COMPOSEE + BLESSING + CONCENTRATE = 6914
Concluding… attributes won’t work but Epee works for concentrate and blessing… that’s really explain now that super damage bump I got one day doing a 290 rush with a full spr cleric (using 2x +90 spr bracelet and etc lol). 800 blessing was no joke
Hmm, how do you calculate
20071 epee no concentrate
21422 epee concentrate (259 concentrate damage)
59% composee attribute
seems too much to factor 2.4x epee
rng venier proc maybe
meh, I spent a good few minutes trying to get the value lol
We need more info about his weapon, maybe he had one red gem or maybe a crystal bangle, or epee garde lv 8 (dm), possible rng venier proc and etc, let’s try to summon him
Did a bit of math here but the value I received is a little bit lower(1340 instead of 1351). If he has no red gem on main weapon, we can assume concentrate is being counted as a “elemental” damage + final flat damage.
((259 * 2,4) * 1,74) + 259