Tree of Savior Forum

Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

seems to be 1% and not dpk

try to get one a day only to keep your sanity

After that post i happened to find the second one. Ten left, eh.
Regarding my sanity, i guess that’s long gone already. But thanks for the concern.

Guys, I was playing with some numbers today.
So, here a big advice for who don’t care about WB and ET: Don’t spend a single silver/blessed gem on your Venier.

Yes my friend. Here some important points:
While doing ET, EVERY PA point MATTERS because you’re fighting against mobs and time. For wb, same as ET.

I believe everybody here don’t have plans to transcend Venier over stage 5 because in some time we will get a better rapier.

So here we go(All math here was based only in skill damage + weapon damage because no matters what PA you get, the difference will be the same %):

Scenario with a plate user + epee + 85%attributes + rapier mastery(100%)
Balestra 7:
Venier +00 stage 0 transcedence = 76423
Venier +10 stage 5 transcedence = 79432
Venier +15 stage 5 transcedence = 81232

Venier +0 loses 4% damage over venier +10 stage 5 transcedence.
Venier +0 loses 6% damage over venier +10 stage 5 transcedence.

Compose 12:
Venier +00 stage 0 transcedence = 12357
Venier +10 stage 5 transcedence = 15367
Venier +15 stage 5 transcedence = 17167

Venier +0 loses 19% damage over venier +10 stage 5 transcedence.
Venier +0 loses 28% damage over venier +10 stage 5 transcedence.

Now lets see the cost of total damage difference per silver invested:
Venieir +0 no transcedence compared with +10 = 89kk for 3k damage
Venieir +0 no transcedence compared with +15 = 93kk for 5k damage

My question is: really woth spend too much silver for a little damage(outside wb and ET)?

Guys, i’m trying to think about a sword dps for solmiki, and i could not find a solid answer who’ll be the best sword dps for solmiki, doppel fencer or dragoon,(consider that will only be 1 sword in the et party) fletchers/mergens will do a lot of dmg in reaper i guess, but idk about swordies, what do u guys think?

given the right supports (diev/chrono)

doppel will always be a beast

1 Like

but they didn’t nerf the atkspeed effect on cyclone? chrono won’t help if that’s the case.

Chrono provides crit rate (quicken) and pass still.

Pass is very valuable for doppels.

haste will make you move faster with cyclone active

oh ic, even after the nerf, u still think with the supp doppel will do more dmg in solmiki than hop dragoon, catagoon, fencers? with ‘‘same gear’’

For AOE department, yes

ic, do u think the problem in solmiki will be the aoe dps to clear the floors, or to have single target dps to get 67kk in 5min?

The setup and comp is more important is what I’ve seen in Solmiki KTOS videos. Then there’s the execution also. Single target, doppel will be equal or better than fencer with support in late transcendence unless a fencer gets his hands on a lolopanther rapier.

+4k damage each Composee is something, but I agree with you, not really worth, specially if you don’t have decent attributes or gear like me. Also, you considered lv 15 squire buff? IIRC it works on the transcendence bonus calculation so it makes a decent difference.

In fact, I went so far into this that I upgraded my set recently*.

rokas robe -> hasta leather armor (better defense, two slots, 6 str 6 dex), need to work on the gems now
superior royal guard armor -> hasta plate armor, put 2x lv 6 yellow gems (I bought it cheaper than a virtov plate top, kek)
lolopanther leather boots (stage 2, lv 7 green gem) + legs (working on the yellow gems for that one right now) BiS critical rate armor set imo, gloves freedom is amazing, very high evasion, very good defense

and finally got my lolopanther leather gloves (was using superior bandit), that one was really hard to get since most people who did ET got the plate gloves or the cloth one.
oh and yes, I got it for pvp, accuracy is a huge issue there. it’s important also to get a better critical rate when using shade set.

Why I’m saying this? Well… Yes, I bought it all using… my blessed shards (got nice deals) + money com dungeon rushes! No way I’ll kill myself doing ET for that stuff.

Now you ask me, are you ready to go when stage 4+ when a new rapier finally arrives?

KEK

But I’m doing 9x 290 rushes and 6x saalus everyday, so money eventually comes back again

I’m glad to see you improving in your fencer. I didn’t calculated squire buff since it gives around 1k final damage(against 720 with a +0 venier) for a weapon with stage 5 transcedence so nothing significant at that point.

With 89kk you can upgrade your compose at 100% attribute or balestra at 84%. So, instead spend this money in your venier, go for your attributes.

Edit: Missions 270+ are giving a decent amout of silver for now.

@Eon11 So here’s just some Murm gameplay of me messing around with monsters. Wanted to see some damage testing with plate/cloth types. Damage isn’t bad since i’m still lacking my Proc weapons. But,I’d say the damage is decent.

Plus watching people smash things is always fun.

1 Like

@Kascly

Yeah I noticed the money when I was leveling my archer to 317. Finally got the pract box, have two more chars to go, my fencer has enough cards to get lv 320+ but I’m not in the mood to do this now, doing all those rushes and saalus everyday drains my energy (AREA OF RUINS LOL)…at least I’m having fun with the rodelero now.

@Tetsumatsu

Very cool video, this outfit also pretty beautiful on a Murm with the helmet on and the shield (not a big fan of that one for fencers).

Damage is also pretty good @@.

btw, Did one run today with a lethargy thaumaturge, slithering + lethargy is op, lol. Can’t wait for high kick~

Area of ruins wasn’t removed yet?
They announced some time ago they will remove that damn thing.

ITOS did not remove it yet @_@… i think hes referring to that unless i am mistaken.

Area of ruins is the reason why I don’t go saalus anymore.
I buy 2 blessed gems(20 shards) per day soloing dg 145. Is a damn boredom, but when you see a clear voucher on the ground…

That scout 3 mafia. Need to step my game up.

I used to farm the 130 dungeon since I don’t have a appropriate char for 145, 250k each run + some jolly rogers +2x cards chances and a petamion but lel screw that

290 ftw!

too bad they nerfed the 290 rush money, used to be~140k now is only ~110k each run :pensive: