For now, yes you can. But with r8 skills, you will get a big loss in terms of dps(when I said big loss, I wasn’t kidding) at least 8k.
I went 3:1 str:dex ratio up until 130, when I started pumping con to get some HP. Bonus points went into str, so I have about 120 invested into str. After I have 50 con invested, I’m switching to full dex up until at least Fencer C3
Just out of curiosity: why does your build have that name?
It’s necessary
/20forfencing
Here what I would change in your build:
Swordsman rank:
Gung ho 5 and Concentrate 2
Highlander:
Crown 15 and Vertical slash 0
Fencer:
Compose 7 and Attaque Au Fer 1(because has big CD)
I’m set with my highlander skills, and I like maxed Vertical slash. Especially after the big buff, I can actually hit for huge damage fairly consistently.
I’ll likely change out my points from AaF to Composee, since it seems obvious that the damage from Composee spam will easily surpass AaF just due to CD.
Thanks for the input!
After you hit fencer 2 you will see that using vertical slash will result in a considerable loss of DPS. Trust me, I’m SW>HL3>BARB>FEN2.
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So what do you guys think about this fencer variant? This will not be the final skill build @ fencer 3 since i will relocate some skill points from sept into composse maybe, looking forward to some card that lets you recover sp by hitting medium mobs(instead of being hit by them like cerberus card goes by)
I was building a high 3 > barb > fencer 3 build, but after reaching around 170 with it i felt the build would work much better with a doppel 3 setup than a fencer 3 one and i really missed the corsair rank in there, the utility is just too much.
Somehow, out of high 2, barb 2, and hoplite 2 i feel like the latter really brings more damage with Epee Garde even though it has a downtime which i will probably just lunge again > dust x3 and then go back to the hop > fencer rotation and all it’s weapon swapping things. You can already see many builds like that hitting 17~19k damage with stabbing without epee, so i really think this has a crazy high damage potential.
Any opinions/ constructive criticism?
Well if you could manage the setup, your pierce damage would be great. The reason why High, Barb, Pelt or Corsair builds are more popular is because Fencer itself is a great standalone pierce class. Players are getting High and Barb to cover other damage types (Slash and Strike), High for more utility, Barb for self buffs and stuns. Pelt is self explanatory, Corsair for more utility.
If you could manage to get the weapon swap thing going, its great. But most of us agree here that Fencer already has enough pierce skills.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5zpnkjwd1u/
this is my fencer build , require veiner 
any suggestion for improvement ?
Why not spam compose when epee is in down time?
Maybe you’re wasting too much points with sept 12. Compose is something to consider maxing when r8 arrives. Unless you’re fighting cloth types(if you epee if up, there is no point in use slash attacks) you can use dust as a disable.
I don’t know if is a thing rely on stabbing because you can lose epee buff(don’t know if some one confirmed that) on weapon swap.
Well, like i said i will relocate points upon r8 arrival. They are not set in stone.
And stabbing requires no weapon stance to be used, so i will use it with rapiers, which will let Epee aplly.
Spear lunge > weap swap> Coq > Prep> Epee > stabbing > sept > composse spam
Thats the issue:
Spear lunge will lasts till you start stabbing? I say don’t.
Off: Damn, site become read only when I was about to reply.
R1: Swordsman
3/5 Gungho
3/5 Bash
4/5 Concentrate
5/5 Pain barrier (or 4/5 PB, 5/5 Concentrate)
R2: Peltasta
Put 1 point in rimblow, maybe take away from guardian/umbo
you know about how the guardian in ktos works right?
R3/R4: Barb
Exactly the same as mine
R5: Corsair
Only 1 point in Keen hauling, you’ll never use it, but it’s there when you need it
R6-7-8: Fencer
Maybe you want at least 4 points in Coquille, Venier or not, When I switched to spada using coquille level 4 I noticed that there’s a window where one or two of my composee will hit without coquille debuff because it’s on cooldown
at least 1 point in attaque au fer might be a good idea, it has a nice base damage and instantly goes lv3 with venier.
also 1 point in flanconnade so that you can have a spammable slash. it can still 1 hit high level low hp cloth monsters, given around 30-50 attributes
Leave sept to 1 or even 0 if you’re hop variant since you wanna use prep for stabbing and a sept w/o prep is easily outscaled by lunge and composse spam. @vfajoses
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That’s a reasonable point. I will probably only get 2s off the spear lunge bonus, but i will still have lvl 10 stabbing for more 8~10 hits with epee garde on which can be potentially high damage.
I mean, i really don’t know, i’m just searching for options here. I was about to change my high 3 > barb 1 into fencer when i simply felt that something was off. And after seeing many doppel 3 videos i was just certain that was the optimal path for doppel c3.
I have a pel > barb 2 > corsair > fencer 1 but i made many mistakes in it’s build, stat and skill wise, so i don’t find it to be a realiable source on how “good” the builds truly is.
High 2 might be still an option though, although i don’t really know how it fares against the barb 2 new warcry.
For me really don’t worth waste 2 cicles in a rank to enjoy a 2 secs debuff.
In your place I would take sw3 istead of hl2 or barb2. New warcry 5 will boost you damage in about 3k in specifics scenarios, but in common scenarios your damage gained will be less than 2k. So you can live without warcry 5.
You’ll need practice and know your way to config hotkey xml file like KTOS players do. For the most of the time, I still have 4.3~4.5 sec of spear lunge by the time I start my stab. Epee animation might get lower it down to 3.7~3.5 so it should be doable. For me, it’s always coquille first before SL.
What? Spear lunge hited in only one mob? lol?
Edit: Now I get it. That guy has 4 AoE attack ratio or 6.
Do you know where i can get some info on how to configure the hotkey xml file? I’ ve seen they do it but when i saw the image i simply didn’t understand a thing lol
Nice video btw, didn’t know you where Sensate, i pretty much watched your video + sb lim ones