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[Guide] Overkill - Skilled Battle Achievement - Share your infos on Overkill

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#1

Hi saviors.

I saw some topics about overkill system but it looks like there was few updates in this mechanic, so i’ll just talk about my experience.

I’m trying to do the achievement “Skilled Battle (Achieve 100,000 overkills)”. My strategy here is to get it early on, with a new character, because i assume getting overkills late game is nearly impossible or need a more evolved strategy (i may be wrong).

I’m at 18K+/100K overkills right now, farming 1K/hour roughly. I’m at lv30 and i farmed mostly on Bug Leaf (lv2 mob) and Raflower now (mob lv16) because they got fix spawn so its faster (like hydras in RO you know).

##Edit : Achievement done. Video of my efficient pattern to get 1K+ overkill/hour - only for new char or under lv39

I farmed Raflowers from lv16 to 39, approximately 80 hours of farming.
Earthquake lv12 (level10 + 2 raflower gems), EQ attribute lv25, some INT, and +7 Dio Staff with some blue gems inside (only lv2 i think), and Energy Bolt lv5 helped.

The idea is to clean the three camps in 2 minutes, and doing same on the other way.[quote=“nizidr, post:19, topic:204144”]
Btw several batches of Lv52 Raflowers also can be found in Novaha Annex. They are also easily overkilled (With quick cast - magic missile).
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Same here, 3 camps of 35 raflowers, 2 minutes respawn. Overkill possible until level 75. You won’t overkill them with EQ though (poison mob earth resistance and too much hp), but Magic Missiles and some buffs can do the job.

Looks like using Secondary Attack with staff can proc overkill.

Let me share what i observed to understand how to get Overkills.

Rules to get Overkills

  • Be in a 23 Level range maximum

It looks like you can’t overkill a monster if he doesn’t give you xp, so if we refer to the xp formula (here), you’ll have to fight at least in a 23 level range, compared to yours (exemple, you are lv40, monsters lv17 can be overkilled, monsters level 16 can’t).
And that’s why you can’t get Overkills on Kepa with a high damage level 200 character.

  • The more base level you get, the more damage you need

The formula is not as simple as 200% of monster hp or “remaining hp+100% total hp”. Every level you win will lower you’re potential of overkilling the same monster. I’m actually losing around 5 or 6% on overkilling score each level up, my damage and monster’s hp remain the same.
So i assume there is a factor like XP Penalty one (maybe the exact same) in the %Overkill Score formula.

  • Other informations
  • Class level doesn’t matter.
  • Overkills don’t seem to give extra xp (anymore) or extra loot.
  • It’s possible that there is a random bug with overkill and crit damage (need to be confirmed).
  • There is a bug that looks to decrease your damage (i go from a fixed 263 to a 259 rarely with my aoe), maybe just after getting up from /sit and a bonus don’t load (weapon upgrade, skill passive, i don’t know…). So if you are usually very close to 100%~ Overkill, it won’t work sometimes because you drop to 99%. Really rare.

The Overkill Score formula

I will edit this part, still gathering information. I got a formula that works just for my actual spot, not sure yet it’s correct. You can help me by telling me about your overkills (i need your level ; the monster level ; monster’s remaining HP (ex : 75/350) ; the dmg you did and the %Overkill score)

On the other hand, i have a question for high level players : is it possible for a lv200 to Overkill a lv 177 monster ? for a 280 to Overkill a 257 monster ? Or the gap between Dmg needed and possible dmg is too high ?

Don’t hesitate to share your thoughts and data.

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Wizard Issue overkill?
#2

elem meteor can overkill. i can do maybe 155%-255% on some squishies.

#3

To overkill u need to kill the mob with a skill
The base damage of the skill needs to be higher than the MISSING HEALTH of the monster

Tips to overkill :

Deliver some tasty auto atks to decrease enemies health, but not too much
Try to use skills with overheat system because the math of missing health is calculated after the skill going on CD
Make sure the monster will die with the second or third use of the X Skill otherwise it wont overkill (Ps : this is why it seems so bugged)

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#5

Any update on this? Did you get the overkill achievement already?

#6

Yes i did get the achievement and the Judge title accordingly, with a Wizard. Never seen someone else with it though. No idea how much people got it or if there is other ways, mine was that :

I farmed Raflowers from lv16 to 39, approximately 80 hours of farming. Earthquake lv12 (level10 + 2 raflower gems), EQ attribute lv25, some INT, and +7 Dio Staff with some blue gems inside (only lv2 i think), and Energy Bolt lv5 helped.
EQ sucks later but no choice because you need more matk/dmg with more levels to overkill, as i explained. And there is still reset skill possible.

I dropped i think 9 raflower gems, and approximately same amount of Red Ord/Blue Ord. So we can say that this three items are possibly at 0.01% drop, because i killed 105K of them if i remember correctly.

I don’t really have a formula for overkill now, but i can just tell that Raflower is the spot to do this early, because they only have 75hp, and they spawn at fixed spots every 2 minutes (3 spots of 30~ raflowers on map).
And you can’t do the achievement later, or it will be very hard and long (“that’s what she said”).

I have a video of my farming pattern and passage to 100K overkill. I can try to upload and post it if you want.

But seriously, i think it’s not worth spending 80 hours. Achievements are not shared between chars and we have no proof this (unfair) mechanic will stay the same. I’d say do it if you really want the full completion on one char, and if you are sure you won’t reroll.

#7

I am lv 239 archer, and i do still overkill, only when it crit and often happen alot in mission alone

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#8

Ok nice to hear it’s still possible with high level Archer. How much overkill you have so far ? At what speed you can increase it in a chosen spot ?

I’m now 245 elem/warlock with the ‘Judge’ one, and i only overkill with meteor. Few targets every 90s will never be such efficient as 1K+ raflowers/hour though.

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#10

1.6k because i dont really care about overkill at the moment xd

#11

Thanks for sharing this !

But well, 100K represents a lot to farm. At high level, it’s not like you can find a lot of low hp mobs, of maybe on spots i don’t know.

BTW i edited the first post with a video of the pattern i used. 4 minutes one way and the way back, knowing Raflowers respawn is exactly 2 minutes (i had a timer opened).

#12

I am able at 227 to overkill brown imps 257 in waiting room while swift step is up and only by using snipe.

#13

Can you use magic missiles on them? or it doesn’t overkill?

#14

If you’re talking about Raflowers, you won’t be able to get wiz 3 before lv39 (you can’t overkill them after as i explained), and if you’re talking about Brown Imps they have 9K hp so i doubt it.

#15

How bout Panto Archers and Mallardu? Is using magic missile overkills them?

#16

Mallardu has 248 hp and level 33, you can possibly overkill until lv56, but you will need too much damage i think, i don’t think it’s doable with magic missiles. Magic Missiles is only 373 base dmg at level 5, maybe at level 40~ with good staff and weapon maintenance from squire… and magic attack on heagears can help, but it can be expensive, same for magic missiles enhance (attribute)…

#17

Casting Lethargy before EQ helps with that process: EQ will hit twice, but for overkill calculation it will count as single hit.

#18

Yes it’s true, i’m aware of that, but no time for this when you go for 100K. =D
Waiting for Lethargy cooldown will slow the process.

#19

Lethargy 18 sec, EQ 17 sec…

Cast - switch channel - rinse and repeat.

Btw several batches of Lv52 Raflowers also can be found in Novaha Annex. They are also easily overkilled (With quick cast - magic missile).

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#20

You can also overkill raflowers using C staff attack with Blessing Buff and Sacrament from Pardoners. currently at 9607 now

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