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I’ve been testing it. Here’s the thing, its not your best skill and its CD is too long BUT pyro relies too much on ground spells. Hell breath is a channeling skill with good range. It adds some necessary diversity to your skill set (better than c1 psychic pressure) so it deserves a point.

Points should go to fireball and either fire wall or flame ground instead.

Was wondering if you would cave to the memecast build!

I made a wiz3 last night…can’t bring myself to take ele1 now haha

I was hoping to get some advice on skilling for Cryo3. How do you use your 45? I’ve heard I should max Ice Wall, but I’m not really convinced. How many points should I put in Ice Pike and Ice Bolt? How many points is recommended for Subzero Shield? Purchasing a skill reset isn’t out of the question later on, either, so should I focus on damage skills and then get the points I need for CC in PvP later on?

Also, stats. I’m planning on going C3 Cryo into C3 Chrono. I’ve heard that C3 Chrono takes a lot of SP maintaining buffs. Should I put points heavy into SPR or is 4:1:1 INT:CON:SPR good enough?

Sorry for asking so many questions at once… I haven’t been able to get a solid answer yet :sweat_smile:

I would like a critique of my skill point decisions in this build.

Note that I do not want a critique of the classes used, I have absolutely 0 interest in going Wiz 3 and none of you can convince me otherwise.

Have you played this class after the CD reduction buff?

Yup.
It’s the same deal.
You Psychic Pressure, Magnetic Force does poor damage. Boss does a knockback attack or will do a knockback so you cancel channel and auto attack or Ice Pike/Fireball/Energy bolt.
Rinse and repeat.
The class was buffed, it’s still bad at PvE. Im on my 4th Psychokino because I’m a masochist.

Which build this time around?

After watching these vids I don’t think they are bad in pve at all:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMZs0DfJFEhH7bQzylUPu7A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_DliaI6kwdLoQU974geKCw
Especially Gravity Pole does very good dmg with cc + huge aoe range and Raise can be used on boss.

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Hey guys.
Can you discuss my build?

And stats: 4 int : 1 con

It is not bad, but doesnt comparable to elementalist in damage.
Psycho need hold down the key to casting it but elem just cast and move on with multiple AoE stack. Of course Psycho is damaging+crowdcontrol at same time, it is pretty hybrid style.

A very good option for pvp/gvg though

not really a rigid build, seems like no expertise in anything. not really cc/support/dps and between them no synergy at all.

but a few suggestions to improve this build,
Wiz1>Cryo3/2>Thaum2/3>Warlock1
This is quite defensive and CC mage with some strong dps ability.
Mainly using subzero shield, swellarm, shrink mobs to tank while using dark theurge to bomb them.

Hi. Could I get some feedback on this build?

I am a bit indecisive about my rank 7. Maybe Warlock would be a better choice to take advantage of Wizard 3? I heard that Linker is good for Sorcerer since it helps negate the idiocy of your summon and spread that damage out.

I want to say that first and foremost, I am completely set on taking Wizard three times.

If you’re completely set on wiz3 then the ranks you’ve taken after that are absolutely counter productive to your build. Wiz3 buff does absolutely nothing for sorcerer because they don’t have any cast times and I’m pretty sure the matk bonus doesn’t work on the summon. Also, I’ve heard that sorc3’s new skills are lackluster and looking at the skills it does seem that way.

The only real progression for wiz3 is ele3. If not, your other option would be to take wiz3 along with some other support classes in hopes of buffing up future combat classes that are released at higher rank.

And you don’t think Sorcerer is a good base for support? Like let’s say I use the summoned devil and then for every rank afterwards focused on DPS. Do you think it could work?

I was a little shaky on Sorcerer C3 and I honestly will probably take Warlock.

Yeah it would make for pretty decent support. Linker is also a good idea. But if you want to take Linker, circle 2 would be better for a higher joint penalty.

You’re really leaving things up to chance though . You don’t know how well future classes will suit your build and you don’t know when higher ranks will release. Are you really prepared for that much uncertainty? Imo I wouldn’t. Honestly your build at present really has 0 synergy apart from the linker sorc combo. This is aside from the fact that you essentially have no aoe and don’t deal much damage till at least sorc1. So until new classes come out and during the leveling process you’re going to suffer because you’re going to be using magic missile and energy bolt (lol) all the way up to rank 5.

But again, I stress that it should be a possible and viable path to follow. I’m just pointing out the pitfalls.

I’m looking for pure group PvP/GvG build. Could something like wiz3 cryo3 wl1 work? I want to be able to deal decent damage while having ability to CC. Or I’m better off as cryo3 kino 2 wl1 / wiz3 kino 3 wl1?

And I appreciate the feedback. Thank you for your respectful honesty. I will take your words into consideration. I would also like some others to comment on my build if anyone is interested.

What do you guys think of this build?

This came from a friend of mine. Any comments, suggestions, reactions on this build are welcome :slight_smile:

hmm ok.
and wiz3 > thau3 what do you think?

I’m playing Wiz3 for the first time, so I can’t really talk about MM on the late game, but seeing that at lvl 9x it still one shots 4-5 targets with a single cast I’d imagine that it remains good for a good amount of levels (currently I only have 20 lvls in its attribute).

Going Chrono will mean you are switching into a support build, while Wiz3 is generally picked in order to go for DPS later in the game, not that this is a bad thing. The difference between Chrono2 and Chrono3 is HUGE, so you might want to take that into account when choosing to go Warlock or not.

I am not a huge fan of Kino personally. I think if I was to run something along these lines I’d much rather splash a level into either Linker or Thauma, either for a 6 mob Joint Penalty (with gem) or the Swell Arm+Swell Body.

I am sure there are a lot of people with more experience on Wiz around that could shine a little more insight on your build however.

@iromeee3, Wiz3>Ele3>Warlock is a pretty standard build. I recommend lvl 3 Energy Bolt 1 Earthquake (for the knockup peel), and a couple levels of Reflect Shield be put on Surespell to make it easier to keep up.

I am unsure about Elementalist skills, so I won’t comment on those.

For Warlock you want Invocation on 5 because of the attribute. I’d recommend getting Pole of Agony lvl 4.