@greyhiem has quit? 😿

[J.Wonno]

I’m sorry, i don’t know, i’m not the one who brought it up

[haukinyau0]

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[J.Wonno]

Oh, come on

SOURCE

if some rich kid driving Ferrari because his father is rich, u wanna yell to the world saying “world is p2win, no hope for the world yada yada, I QUIT” ?

[haukinyau0]

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[J.Wonno]

You are the one who started this not me.

[haukinyau0]

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[J.Wonno]

And you are the one who brought the ‘real life stuff’ up in the first place.[quote=“haukinyau0, post:88, topic:335471, full:true”]

but will you able to swallow the fact u work +100hours per week only able to drive a corolla while the kid did nothing and drive the premium car?

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I’m gonna say yes, because i’m not competing against him in any way. His life, his car doesn’t concern me at all as long as i don’t have to race against him.

your reaction is honest , sincere and a valid 1 on this topic p2w

but TOS is just a business, its not your dream-toy.
IMC has no obligation to heed to your demand.
ideal-balance-perfect-MMO wont fill their employee’s stomach and their families

my question, how much will u willing to pay for a ideal-balance-perfect-MMO?
100usd monthly? 1200usd per year?

this gacha, within 24hours, earn more than 12000usd.

I have no argument for this, i understand.

[haukinyau0]

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[Kakorrhaphiophobia]

Ideals ideals ideals. Not sure why people still talk about that shit.

Summary:

• kinyau has an example
• somebody misinterpreted it
• real life ideals on a gaming forum

The ferrari is just an example.

Once you have high specs you need minimum effort to get your goals (rich can get “Most” things easily)

If you have low specs you need to work as hard as you can. There is a time where you get lucky and get high spec (successful in business, winning a lotery, etc).

So in this game

High specs can get the gachas and catch up to players who have invested 10 months for level 10 transcendence

Moneyless low spec f2p plebs will need to invest more time.

Bring your politics and ideals elsewhere.

I agree. What’s the point in arguing with someone who refuses to listen.

It could be @haukinyau0 or you @J.Wonno. TBH you dont listen and insist your ideals here @J.Wonno.

Delusions are delusions. We only live and die for one thing and we will die if we dont have it “money”

No point in arguing in someone with “respect” pfft

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[unicorntheshiny]

This is why china farmers titled are respected for being the best farmer in the world O_o…

Due to high endurance level of E-FARMING. Welcome to farm vile

[Kakorrhaphiophobia]

This is why china farmers titled are respected for being the best farmer in the world O_o…

Due to high endurance level of E-FARMING. Welcome to farm vile

Due to high endurance level

They are the most populated country for a reason.

wears bulletproof vessel
runs away

[J.Wonno]

No point in arguing in someone with “respect” pfft

Then again, i’m not the one who brought this ‘respect’ thing up in the first place.

[Kakorrhaphiophobia]

Yes, it’s called ‘reward’, from putting time and effort into something.

You wanna be good at something you put time and effort into it. That’s how it should be.

And no, those people buy costume, token, enchant scroll. Don’t pull it out of your arse and say they don’t.

Now, answer my question.

u can still farm, p2w is not compulsory, its an option.

if some rich kid driving Ferrari because his father is rich, u wanna yell to the world saying “world is p2win, no hope for the world yada yada, I QUIT” ?

just because u can farm mindlessly for 4hours per day for 120days straight, you deny the rights of people who able to spend 1200usd to get the same result as u?
money don’t drop from the sky, and money could help IMC a lot
some people have 1200hours to farm, some have 1200usd to spend

we all play a role making up the TOS community, be it whales or dedicated hardcore manual players

its true p2w if there is no way but to spend money for it, but its just a speed-convenience at costly price for now…

Do i have to race against that kid? No, then why would i wanna do such thing. That makes no sense.

No balls.

what balls u want?

what is the answer you seek from me?

current TOS is , who can farm the most win, who can RMT the most win.
Both, doesn’t give IMC much money

with new p2w cube, we have a new category as u said,

who can farm the most win
who can RMT the most win
who spend the most money win

and by p2w, its not cheap bro… rng sucks and it could cost more than 10s of thousands if you have ■■■■ luck

that p2w cube, is just another chance for you to roll your item.

some1 did the enchant scroll calculation, to roll 3 ideal perfect stat, it could cost more than 1mil usd

Yes/No and why. Don’t be a pussy.

You brought that up in the first place, and now you say you don’t know. Come on, man up. Maybe this maybe that. your metaphor doesn’t work here and you know it.

His metaphor fits perfectly.

This kid has a ferrari. You aren’t literally doing anything with him, but you are competing with him in in society. It indirectly implies that he is rich, that he’ll do well in life, that he doesn’t have to try to as hard as a normal person. And since it’s been stated that his dad is indeed rich, that means that kid will also be rich. And it’s extremely likely that he will also grow up to be rich and able to uphold that placement. He’ll have a better education, and he doesn’t have to worry abo debt. People will respect him BECAUSE he is rich.

It goes on. That kid will be successful by simply being born in a better family. While someone else has to put crazy amounts of time and effort just to even scratch him.

What hau was essentially saying is that, this kind of logic just as bad as yours.

Is it a good idea for the rich to succeed and live easier while not putting as much effort? No.

Is it a good idea for someone to put all of their time just to barely reach the standards of said person, or possibly not even reaching it? No.

That is why hau answered your rhetorical question with another one.

Not in my line of work, rich or not it doesn’t matter. You got no skill you got no chance. People respect me because of my skills not how much $$$ i have.

Skillful dude vs Rich boy , who do you think will earn more ‘respect’ ?

You can go on and on, but at the end of the day, more money doesn’t always mean more skills. Better school =/= more skills.

Go backread. Why the hell are you denying it? Is that how you counter an argument? Not sure if you are acting dumb or really dumb to begin with.

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[Kakorrhaphiophobia]

Have you read it? So who do you think is the one who refuses to listen?

Well this pretty much sums it up

I agree. What’s the point in arguing with someone who refuses to listen.

[J.Wonno]

People will respect him BECAUSE he is rich.

@haukinyau0 @Kakorrhaphiophobia

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[J.Wonno]

I’ve already gave my answer for this, don’t know why you brought this up again. You all claim that i don’t listen, okay that’s fine by me. I’m only here to make a point, and i’ve already done so.

What else do you want from me now? Shout ‘MONEY IS EVERYTHING’ ?

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