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Gravity pole in Team Battle League is a joke

you still got all your other cc, if this one was left how it was phyco would be op. look at sadhu, be happy u werent overnerfed like sadhu, sadhu nerfs applied in pvp AND pve

Gravity pole is sht now, but kino 3 is still OP in TBL.

No wonder I didn’t see any psychokinos in team battle, lol.

The main issue with gravity pole previously was that it could not be countered. I think making it a level 1 or 2 debuff is more than sufficient enough of a balance. The new slow is useless considering the small radius of gravity pole, and the damage nerf is completely unnecessary when the skill itself was never strong to begin with. Top off the fact that the skill must be channeled (leaving its caster vulnerable)… GG.

so why it matter if other skill still works?

it is that 5 skill points WASTED - its useless now as there is no reasonable replacement.

think about key skill in circle 3 like frost cloud get nerfed. ( dont be non-sense people like “put it in stone curse. who cares, i hate ele.” )

Sometimes i wonder what classes used by those people that keep saying its fine for 1 skill (key skill, mind you) to get nerfed until its pretty much useless, because all their other skill is still fine.

Kinos are still strongest in TBL why are you people cryin and bitchin?

Tbh if they kept the slow but unnerfed the damage it’d be fine, the only reason the damage was nerfed in the first place is because it was a literally unbreakable 10 second death beam.

The funniest part is that you really only need raise & warlock skills to destroy people so gravity pole just isn’t worth using now except in pve.

Wow. You are new to MMO’s, or games in general right ? If not it’s really sad.

No, i’ve been playing MMORPGs for more than 13 years and games in general for more than 25 years, however i don’t see how that matters. The person i quoted literally claimed that it’s IMCs goal to make skills useless, i simply asked for some sort of link/quote to show that it’s true.

Why is it sad in your opinion that people want some sort of confirmation, link or proof when someone makes a claim that someone else has supposedly strange goals like “our skills should be useless and not balanced”?

Because no one will give you a confirmation, only wall of texts made/translated by their community manager. And even if the “leader” of the project makes an announcement, it’s still not his words, words you can’t trust because they are all lying to us.

So why it’s sad ? Because you think an announcement of IMC would mean something. They don’t know themselves where they are going, how could they told you their goals ?

One of them is profit, and I’m sure you didn’t need to read an announcement from them to understand it. It’s same with balance when you see what they are doing.

By they way, his claim was just sarcasm, in case you still didn’t understand.

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They probably try to balance things, they are just really bad at balancing. But just because they fail at balancing you can’t say that imbalance/useless skills their intended goal.

I fully agree that balancing is horrible, but i don’t believe that it’s what their actual goal is.

Sarcasm is unfortunately not that easy to spot in online forums/written text (unless it’s really obvious by using overexaggeration), especially since this is a forum where all kinds of idiots/trolls are hanging around despite hating the game, so it can be quite hard to spot when someone is being ironic/sarcastic or serious, especially if english is not your first language. :slight_smile:

But lets get back to topic.

This is what’s happening in every online game where there is a cash shop. “Look at this, it’s amazing, take it, it’s free… trust me !” a few days later this free thing is nerfed. In ToS it results in reroll, people who reroll will maybe buy Token to make it easier or not to lvl up, but at least one guy will buy a Token (or XP Boost).

Do you think it’s normal to have no way than reroll to have a good character, or simply a character your want to play ? They made a patch with major changes, they will add new ranks later… How can we fit the new meta incomming if we can’t change anything on our actual character lvl 200+ except skills (and by paying a cash shop item) ?

They don’t try to balance things, they troll everyone and it works perfectly. I like being trolled.

Welcome to Free to Play.

fuk… IMC does not know how to balance. :@

Because before it’s an autowin skill that u can use just by pressing one button every 30s and every guild battle/team battle can be determined by that skill alone. don’t you ever hear about kinospam term in this game? lel

So we should nerf Heal, it will not scale anymore on a % of HP. Such good balance.

They halved duration of stun from Stone Shot, which is a good thing. But in the same patch, they destroy both damages and CC of one skill… A strong skill indeed, if not the best in battle team like you say. Does it mean you have to destroy the skill ? Why not reducing duration of CC and damages applied by this skill rather than transforming it to an useless skill in PvP (we can still use it against Kepas… YEY) ? If you want to slow a target, you take Chronomancer, not Kino… damn it !

And if IMC don’t want to balance their game, they could at least give to people a way not to waste all the time they spend into this game.

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We know. So what? It’s still useless now. Skills shouldn’t only be OP or trash, there needs to be balance.

100% agree with you.

Use raise and dt and enjoy the free win, bonus points if a bokor with rez is in your party

You thought new GP is a joke ?
I have more in stock for you !

Seriously!? If this is true no wonder the 4 archers I got teamed up with didn’t do anything when I caught 4 people with raise