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Funny how ppl complain about this game but still play it!

But you have to have actual genuine talent to pull something like that off.
That means more then the ROI or everyone would be doing it.

So you’re saying they…

That’s driven from personal passion, which tends to dry up pretty quick after creating a diamond in the rough.

You know I’m just typing random bullshit to get you to keep replying right? :smiley:

If that were true, then we wouldn’t have Walmarts at all. If people just stopped once they found success, successful businesses wouldn’t open new stores, wouldn’t develop into franchises, and wouldn’t form corporations. The system is undoubtedly broken and this is largely due to lobbying and deregulation starting in the 70s as a targeted attack on the fundamental principles of the New Deal which was put in place after the great depression to ensure it never happened again, but America’s slow decline into an oligarchy isn’t really the topic of discussion.

Oh, I’m happy enough to educate you.

Would the Wal-mart model still work without subsidies like food stamps for it’s employees and the people that shop there I wonder?

can I join? did I miss something?

did negaflare changed profile pic or new account ?

Same account, same default profile picture. But I only have a brief moment between chronomancies to reply to you guys. You put way too much thought into things. x3

Imagine a World if you will; where Walmart employees… pause Could actually afford to shop and buy food from their own place of employment! gasp

Walmart thrives on keeping it’s employees stuck on Food Stamps. Like most corporations, they’re the biggest Welfare to any Tax Payer. (The companies, not the Welfare recipients)

Alas, just /random, because I hate all major Corporations.

anti-capitalism?

want more socialism?

morning bro, its 5am here GMT+8

Yeah I miss the good old days, where old BBSs forums are like taverns and players were adventurers, bards/information brokers/explorers/artisans alike gather.
Yeah, late 90s to early y2k was the highest peak of roleplay experience specially for MMOs released back then.

Now that’s how you derail a thread ladies and gentlemen.

Take notes.

You shouldn’t hate corporations who are working completely within the law. You should hate the corrupt government that allows the law to be bent to serve corporate interests. In fact, you should hate the docile public that lets all this go on because they’re either willfully blind to it or genuinely ignorant of the people they vote for. At the end of the day, America is still a democracy, we just can’t handle the responsibility.

Morning, it’s 5:30 pm here. Lol

I won’t go to far into what I believe because if there’s three things I really don’t like to discuss its: Religion, Politics and Corporate America. (Besides my slant reply up there.)

Capitalism doesn’t work. America is proof of that on so many levels. I’m all for working to become a success. There’s nothing wrong with that. But heaven forbid you get sick. Because if you’re not in the 1% or have a really good job, your ass is dying. Got Cancer? Better pay up to the Big Pharm Companies or your dead. Hell, (Tin Foil Hat) I have the feeling, we create diseases just so we can find new ways to make money.

The Land of Opportunity, of Freedom, to me; is nothing but a dream set based on something that might have been true many many years ago.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand that, and I agree with you. However, nothing is going o change. It doesn’t matter which idiot is president when the same people who have been really running things have been in office for years and years far beyong any presidental term.

@haukinyau1 And there-in lies the issue at hand. Instead of being a united country that thrives to help all, a certain extremely small % of said country only is only interested in helping themselves. The problem is that, that extremely small % controls the government and or is the government.

Lets all debate the merits of communism. Oligarchs win in that model too. :smiley:

derail is best

because u complain at my complain at the game~

best complain ever~


well, yea, @scarethemonkeys pretty much whatever drives the motivation wins
(we will never be like ant, work together for a common cause, for common good)

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Nah, I’m just bored of your memes. This is at least fascinating lol

Funny because me and my friends just stopped play. There is a limit to masochism. So we all became Tree of Foruns, with hopes, but no expectations anymore.

But good! Good that you still feel like this is the best game of the world. Enjoy.

At least you know that.


I already posted something about this in other thread earlier, and i can see these posts are a bait for trolling and flame wars. Well, can’t beat childish behavior from narrow minded people, but this game right now looks like this for me.

And before someone say something about rushing to the end, i don’t have a single char at max Lv, 4 chars between 240-289, 4 in the 108-173 and 2 under 100.

And there is my 2429 hours of gameplay.

But that doesn’t mean i am satisfied with what i got from it, as @SlyGoat said, just adding more maps and quests that are the same in 90%+ of the maps won’t net them more money from new players, not even new players for that matter.
The game is bleeding, and i don’t see any new player in game, i already leveled 3 or 4 chars since last month and passed through all the first 200 Lvs, and i can count in 1 hand how many times i could find a dungeon or mission group to do it.

Now that the new content is out, and it is entirely comprise for parties (with some exceptions of builds that can pack a punch and go solo), you barely find any, most are grinding parties, and generally comprised from guildies (be it members of a single one or an aliance).

Now i ask you, do you think this game will survive at this rate? What we are asking is not something unfair, we want a game that work as it should.

We have bugs from the first iCBT running around today, we got new bugs, we got stuff broken, we got new stuff broken, and the only thing i see coming for us is, some minor bug fixes (and an occasional big fix, which come with tons of minor bugs or some major ones) and Cash Shop stuff.

OMG, and here i thought i was some sort of anormal for thinking the same way LOL. Thank you very much for putting that up 10/10.

And that doesn’t only apply to US, other capitalist countries also work same way, some even worse.


I will pull out from this thread, served its purpose already, the OP didn’t even bother to come talk to us and expose his opinions about the matter, but i can see that he don’t have any, only baits lol.

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thanks for noticing my job around here

I’m keeping the forum, interesting.


not quite, whiteknights cant even defend the game anymore

whiteknights just pay and play the game, because that what they do.

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WHITE KNIGHT ALERT! WHITE KNIGHT ALERT!

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