FUll Support rank 7 discussion

rinaldi_rogerio · February 21, 2016, 1:50pm

Hello everyone,

I’m currently developing my Full Support build and I have 3 possibilities about which class my rank7 will be. After some research and discussion on another topic I ended choosing my classes until rank6, and now I have to decide rank7.

-A- Dievdirby:
Due to its statues which provides nice buffs, but I have some questions about this class.

[1] Can I have more then 1 statue at time on the ground? If yes, is it worth or should I put them down accordingly to my party set up?

Example1: If I have some mages in my party I’ll put down a Zemyna due to its reduce cost on SP.
Example2: On a party with physical DPSers I’ll put down a Laima because of the reduce on cooldown.
Example3:I have both physical and magical DPSers… can I put both Zemyna and Laima or have to choose between them?

Ansewered by Apple_Cider: Yes you can have more than 1 at time.

[2] Statue materials are hard to drop or find? If they are I should put the carve skill?

Ansewered by Apple_Cider: You can buy it from NPC, yet ppl put lv1 on it due to its solid dmg

-B- Pardoner:
Except for [Discerning Evil] skill I like all its skills. But I have some questions anyway

[3] Even if I get only c1 Pardoner I’ll be able to sell my scrolls? I mean… on c2 I can put down a shop, but I’m not willing to get it c2.

[4] That increase on magical resistance (maxed) is a good thing? Or the buff is considered low on end-levels?

-C-Plague Doctor:
Thinking on this one just because of the debuff removal and power on PvP. The question goes below ^^

[5] [Healing factor] is a worth skill? Because only 100hp is a low amount… but it says its quickly recovered, the gap between the +100hp are really small?

[6] [Bleedletting] I’m putting only 1 level on it since that 35 seconds I believe to be quite enough, I’m I right on thinking that way?

[7] [Fumigate] > Is it worth putting more than lv3 on it? I mean at lv3 it already remove ailness from 5 targets right? So as the maximum party set up is 5… lv3 will do the job. But if GvG system is a near future max lvl would be better for PvP right?

[8] [Pandemic] > only lv1 to 5 enemies is enough?

[9] [Beak mask] knowing that I have already put the skill that AOE remove lv3 ailness should I invest points in this one?

Answers by Wurmheart

No limit to the number of statues. Toss em all down buddy.
Can all be bought dirt cheap from the diev master, carve is a good str scaling skill now that’s worth a few points for str builds at least.
You don’t need spell shop to trade them. But keep in mind simony is expected to be reworked entirely. Same for spell shop.
Good, but technically speaking it’s not very game changing. def/magic def are flat dmg reductions and damage simply scales to high to stop it to a decent degree.
It’s the strongest heal period, it heals that much per tick i believe. It continually tries to restore health to the current health of when it was used. Always max it imo.
Honestly the 3 anti condition pd skills are all quite good. Maxing bloodletting is amazing, but so is fumigate. Beak mask a bit less so, but it’s very strong to ensure the cleric never gets cc’d.
I believe that’s the count of conditions it removes, not the ally count. Not entirely sure though.
Depends on the build tbh. Large mobs aren’t exactly unheard of so it useful at higher levels, but not that important for builds that don’t rely on incineration.
Don’t know, it’s good preventive skill though.

Aside of that, you better have some damage in your build. Because most full support builds are not viable focusing solely on support.

Apple_Cider · February 21, 2016, 1:21pm

I’m not an expert on the other classes, but I can tell you that you can put down all of your statues at once (cooldowns permitting), and that you can buy all materials from the Dievdirbys master for around ~20 silver per log. Most people put at least one point into carve for the solid damage it does though.

rinaldi_rogerio · February 21, 2016, 1:30pm

Thanks, I’ll edit my post crediting the answer on you.

Wurmheart · February 21, 2016, 1:31pm

No limit to the number of statues. Toss em all down buddy.
Can all be bought dirt cheap from the diev master, carve is a good str scaling skill now that’s worth a few points for str builds at least.
You don’t need spell shop to trade them. But keep in mind simony is expected to be reworked entirely. Same for spell shop.
Good, but technically speaking it’s not very game changing. def/magic def are flat dmg reductions and damage simply scales to high to stop it to a decent degree.
It’s the strongest heal period, it heals that much per tick i believe. It continually tries to restore health to the current health of when it was used. Always max it imo.
Honestly the 3 anti condition pd skills are all quite good. Maxing bloodletting is amazing, but so is fumigate. Beak mask a bit less so, but it’s very strong to ensure the cleric never gets cc’d.
I believe that’s the count of conditions it removes, not the ally count. Not entirely sure though.
Depends on the build tbh. Large mobs aren’t exactly unheard of so it useful at higher levels, but not that important for builds that don’t rely on incineration.
Don’t know, it’s good preventive skill though.

Aside of that, you better have some damage in your build. Because most full support builds are not viable focusing solely on support.

Raspy · February 21, 2016, 1:32pm

You can build as many as you want. Also Owls should be spammed they scale based on Matk so if you use Rods they’re great.
You can buy them from the Diev master and get them from carve.
On the market.
Mdef is basically flat reduction so 100 mdef means you reduce each magic attack against you by 100. Late game things hit hard. So the reduction isn’t going to be jaw dropping or even scale well against the big nukes.
Healing factor is good last I saw videos of it. But it’s possible it was changed from what it used to do. Someone from kToS should probably answer this one.
Depends if you’re worried about PvP stuff… The difference is 58% up time or 92%. It would be very strong in PvP.
The only rank 3 aliment right now is Plague Doctor’s incinerate. So the Lv3 part of it isn’t that important. It’s possible there will be PvE later or more classes that use Lv3s. But right now? No care.
Pandemic is a strong skill in certain situations. And in end game content right now basically is here is a medium sized room with 150 monsters. Go get em!
As there are no level 3 skills you should care about yet. And you could just use bloodletting instead. I would keep an eye on things though maybe there will be a hard boss or a post Rank 7 class that uses nasty Lv3s.