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Full Support Dievdirbys / PVE only

Why don’t you go for the usual Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Druid > PD?!

You will get nothing from Priest 1 at all because you won’t have enough SPR to help your bless and not to mention it is going to be 5/5 only. Unless you really want Ress in your build as a “must have”.

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well he wants to build a full support pve diev, then the ability to ressurect someone is important imo.

Since when Diev 3 is a full support class? No way.

ikr, but just read the topic title :smirk:

Wurmheart > True I’ll definitely delay priest till r6 if I stay on this build. Thanks for the skill wise part !
I’ll make an other build soon thanks to all those tips. I might need your feedback again later !

Sephiero > Then I’ll max world tree you’re right, thx.

Kamuitouma, Harumi > I’m “trying to” make a FS pve only diev build, but it seems difficult to not sacrifice anything in therms of “must have” ahah. I already let daino on the side… So you think this build wouldn’t be solid enough to be the FS of a team for high lvl party / end game ? It would mean a support priest with a spr/blessing build is necessary for that ?

I am like you debating as well for a pve diev since I am working on a pvp priest, however I am not sure about PD just because if you look at [Build] Saintone’s Diev Doctor ○ Support & Offense ○ PvE & PvP (No longer updated.) underneath alternative skill themes it looks like you really don’t need anything from PD for ET (unless i’m reading this wrong) besides healing factor and Pandemic and Pandeminc was worded:

Pandemic Lv. 0 → Lv. 5 - There’s nothing else that’s useful in ET, since status immunity is no problem. Might as well get maximum status spreading.

atm mine is c2>diev3>oracle the last 2 I am debating on, like if I should go priest for ress or not. But then again it depends if you have friends and what they’re going for.

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AryiaRose > About status immunity, even if ET doesn’t require any PD skills I was thinking that future high level maps / quest / bosses would contain more constraints and status ailment ( Playing RO I experienced this… ). As a cleric2 seems to be powerfull enought in therms of heal, true I could consider changing PD for something else if status ailment are not that important for High lvl PVE but I confess I doubt of it.

It looks like, for english-speaking persons, the term “Full Support” means “Full healer”. But in other regions the “support” is not refered as a “healer”, but just as a… guess what, “support”.
A support can be a healer, but it can also be a buffer, a dispeller, a disabler…
So it seems logical that the OP consider Dievdirby to be a support, because it is.

BTW, the suggested build seems solid to me, if you want to focus on healing / dispelling / protecting teammates while having the ability to do zone-support w/ statues.

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Damn… you’re 100% right ahah. Sorry if my poor english is confusing…

By full support I mean: a build only dedicated to support other player in a party.
-No intention to deal damages as other player will be dedicated to this task.
Consequences: even attack skills ( if there is some ) have to have a support intention like aggro mob, immobilize them ( like Carve owl: seems to be able to protect and not only deal damage so I consider this skill ok in this build )

Hell yeah, this is definitely what I am looking for, but regarding to some reaction I wander if this build would be ok for end game party, what do you think about this point ?

In terms of ending game just put your Owl on the pedestal and be happy.

You mean Diev are always welcome for high lvl party ?
( or maybe my english doesn’t allow me to get the irony ? :smiley: )

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Diev is really good for the current end game content (Earth Tower) and the ability to ressurect party member will be really useful there.

Ok so… following all your advice, here is a better build I guess:

Notes:

I put Cure lvl 9 for solo lvling purpose, but is it usefull to have more than 1 for fade ?

I’ll wait and see how much I need to put into Zemyna, if a lower lvl is enough I might lvl up Carve Attack instead.

I put Fumigate lvl max, and Beak Mask lvl max. SO I can mostly stay safe while being able to handle status on other players. But I feel like I’m missing something right here.

Beak Mask and Fumigate are PvP skills, for PvE support you just need to max Bloodletting.

Well, I think a lot of people here in the game are narrow-minded and just think like “Cleric character = you gotta be da heal bruh”, and by this scheme try to put clerics in a solid cage to do a single thing : heal their arses. Like heal-bots, litteraly.
But the fact is there are just 2/3 classes in cleric tree that gives heal capacities, all the rest is support and damage dealing. But still they will expect you to heal, the only perspective that you might be a decent dd or hybrid support is just totally out of their mind… And what if you’d be a great dd, that is… insanity ? :slight_smile:
This leads to some kind of “meta” partying where the cleric guy will necessarily be the entitled healer of the group, the swordy will be the entilted tank (because, you know, peltasta circle 1 = you can tank bruh), and the multi-target DD some Elewarlock and Rangyfletcher (well, for these two, it actually is legit). Players are confining themselves in comfy little cells when the game give so much possibilities, so what is insane now ? ^^

But let’s stop the manifesto and talk about your build XD
In a pure support perspective, you could also drop the PD for the Oracle, who has some nice support features (counter-spell / forecast / arcane energy) and is not too healy-healy or too peeveepee ; but you might consider the class as a whole, because the upcoming circle 3 will bring another nice features to the class (the mobile immunity zone may be the shiniest one). And the gender-change shop to make a little profit when you sleep x’)

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just decrease a level in safety zone and put cure to lv 10 for bossing, and you won’t be able to solo train with this build anw. This build is very good at support for high-level & stationary party… but to reach that high level, well… good luck!!! :smiley:

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It isn’t a good idea to bring up your unrelated personal pet peeves in build advice threads tbh. If you want to discuss cleric build viability then open up a new thread instead.

Oracle r1 sees some use due to counter-spell, especially when other invulns aren’t possible due to rank restraints.
Oracle2 is simply not recommended, where as oracle3 has some neat skills that will need proper testing first. A mobile rng invuln is likely to random to be of much use.

And it will also depend on how good miko will turn out to be, as that is also a r6 class option. (with seemingly no prior class requirements.)

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Already done since a looong time, sweet sweet Wurmheart. :slight_smile:
I gave my own advices, the choice is now up to the OP. Thanks for your constructive intervention anyway :slight_smile:

There’s no irony! Diev is such a good class for any game style!

I hope you enjoy it.

I mean the Owls are strong enough to deal with anything when it comes to damage.

His buff skills are also a good to go.

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I have a lvl 280 cleric 2 diev 3 priest pd and it is good for pve. Regarding pd, most people said you dont need bloodletting. IMO, having pd or oracle for status preventing is really really important. It’s not only for pvp, that ability is important in pve too. I constantly run lvl 217 dungeon with my friends, and bloodletting is really helpful there. Imagine you’re being frozen continously. That happen a lot there.

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