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Full Support : Chaplain or Krivis? (HELP!)

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

As a full support build, I am currently at rank 4.
Cleric - Priest - Priest C2 - Priest C3 - ?? - Cleric C2 - Plague Doctor.
I need you guys’ opinion for the ‘??’ mark on my 5th rank.
So i’m thinking about being Chaplain or Krivis on my 5th Rank.
I hope you guys could answer my questions regarding those classes.

A. Chaplain.
I am thinking about being Chaplain because people said they has the best DPS buffs.

  1. What exactly Deploy Capella do? I don’t really get it
  2. Do extra damage from Last Rites dan Aspergillum works with magic user too? or do these skills only capped on physical/auto attacks?

B. Krivis

  1. I know Krivis is all about Daino, though. Some people said we could buy Daino Scrolls. But does using Daino Scrolls apply to the party as well? or is it just applied to the caster itself?

Thanks!

#2

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#3

the reason i’m thinking about Krivis is just for Daino. Then does using Daino Scrolls from Pardoner apply to the party as well? or is it just applied to the caster itself? If yes, hands down, i’m going to Chaplain.

Any thoughts?

#4

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#5

Exactly! we need help about Daino Scroll’s though

#6

Look what kivris offers isnt just daino, but if you really wanna go support dont pick kivris, it is a dps oriented class.

cle3/prie3/PD is the extreme support, the popular cle2/prie3/chap/PD gives up abit on the supporting side for give better offensive buffs and selfdefense.

But, i feel these 2 combinations abit of a waste. I myself are cle/pri3/chap/kivri/PD and can tell you that i have 0 problems supporting in ET,

most of the time i dont even use heal! , whit mass heal healing the tank for 16k and the 10 seconds inmortality plus 50% hp healed of revive and the obscene recovery of healing factor is more than enougth.

Anyway ur asking for kivris, what kivris offer is:

-Daino
-Zaibas awesome damage
-Zalziai inmense critical damage buff and 48 m.amp for mages, plus the aoe debuff
-aukuras 42 fire resist and big health regen that just work out of combat, plus a big area debuff and agro tool.
-idk about stigma but the rank 3 skill sucks hardcore.

Just remember that you will have serius problems proc-ing Incinerate be yourself whiout zalziai.

#7

Thanks for your information!
Do you ever have problem with buff caps that Daino can surpass?
I formed a team mostly with my sister as Chronomancer, i am just afraid if the buffs could go overwritten by each other.
However, this problem would not exist if Daino Scrolls applied to all party which i have no idea about this yet.

If, let’s say, i’m using Daino Scrolls (from Pardoner’s scroll shop) and it’s affected my whole party, it’ll be awesome. I’m just going for either Cleric C3 or Chaplain.

Any thoughts?

#8

Yes, dont worry, daino affects all the party and has big range unlike sacrament and revive. Same one as last rites ill say. And no, my lvl5 daino never got overbuffed.

The thing that you should know is, scrolls doesnt take in count the atribute of the crafter, it means that you will not get the extra 2 minute duration from atribute, it will last 200 seconds.

Also scrolls aint cheap and you have to recast it before runs out or will be a real mess.

yes, Daino is mandatory for a buffer, ur buffs + ur mates selfbuffs + crono buffs you need Daino 100% and always up.

#9

Krivis for support
Chaplain if you want more dps

#10

krivis is better cause daino at lvl 200+ all the fa’gs just spam every buff skill and overwrite each others

#11

Thank you, guys! then Krivis it is!

#12

Nice that you decided, just one more thing. If as i understand your final class will be cle2/pie3/kivri/PD.

Should tell you that while great support, you will be very party dependant. You cant farm whit just zaibas5,incinerate5 and cure10. The cooldowns are too big and the damage while outstanding cant compete whit a true dps class.

gl :wink:

#13

Why would he compete with a dps class he’s support.

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#14

Im support too and outdps anyone in self buffs, never missed a dullhalan box and never partied there, so you can make a idea.

Look this video of Sialuai solo, isnt me but the guy is using my same class and almost same build:

I use dagger so got much more dps than this, hes more in the tanky side.

#15

On a side note Deploy Capella rewrite buff buyed from a Padonner, so your party will lost the longer Sacramentun/Aspersio, but of course your will have the plus of attributes and stats.

#16

Actually i would take chaplain in your place. Krivis offers some good skils(one of them being daino), but chaplain isn’t a full dps class(it theorically helps your teammates to do damage).

With capella lv5 you can get Stone skin uptime(theorically 1~1,30 mins if your party gets out and in before it expires(but it costs 1k for each capella cast)

Chap has a lot of buffs? Yes, buff overwriting is a thing? Yes, but i wouldn’t get krivis at rank 5 just because of 1 good skill.

#17

My point is that he shouldn’t care whether or not he can compete with DPS because he’s a support. I did say in my previous comment to choose chaplain if he wanted more “DPS”.

But for the sake of argument, if you try world boss hunting solo against helgerscle, mirtis, or rexipher (280 bosses) clerics can never compete against classes like qs3, ele3, fletcher3 and so on at that point in the game, more so if they’re being ‘supported’. You don’t even need to be lvl 280 to hunt dullahan.

#18

Yes obiusly a buffed dps class will outdps a cleric, but who give these buffs? i was talking about selfbuff, where you can compete in dps whit a dps class also in selfbuff.

In other hand, you are giving much weigth into aspergillum, the strong of this skill is that have no downtime is always dealing steady damage, so in the long run will outdps nukes, like meteor.

now what happens if you combine zaibas+cure+incinerate+aspergillum all them buffed be sacrament,last rites and blessing.
You get some serius dps, also dont forget that chaplain is the one class that most get out of elemental damage of all the classes in the game.

#19

Sacrament and last rites buffs auto attacks not skills mind you. I’ll get back to you if I ever manage to see a solo chaplain get a cube from helgersecle against an ele3war doing 8k tick frost clouds.

PS: No one uses meteor that much anymore end game unless its for clearing, or if its the only skill left in their rotation not as main DPS.

#20

Actually for some reason Sacrament affect Bwa Kayiman, so maybe it can affect some others aswell?