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Forum Reputations?

good! you finally realized :smiley:

Bad? PopularPaladin for encouraging public persecution and scapegoating among forum members. :unamused:

You can celebrate people who contributed something specific but itā€™s wrong even to define whoā€™s a good member, not to mention a bad one.

If you want to do something about the latter, demand more mod response and action, then report the respective posts.

This has nothing to do with a positive atmosphere either, especially when youā€™re encouraging to make lists of bad members. Claiming that youā€™ll be able to keep it all fluff is narrow-minded and self-centered.
Some people do overreact but such sensitivity is partly justified when itā€™s against something obviously toxic.

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am i in your teamā€¦?

woops, forgot this is not the off-topic

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Sure the thread started off as a ā€œBaitā€ thread as you so put it, but it became something positive, at-least for a short while. I really donā€™t need to say much more as @Melon and @Rabbit have already eloquently put it.

My personal feelings, which I have stated time and time again;

Yes, I am bothered by the amount of bugs within the game.
Yes, I am bothered that IMC has gone AFK from the forums for the most part.
Yes, I fully understand everyone elseā€™s complaints and gripes.

No, I am not going to make 15 different shite post about the same stuff over and over.
No, I am not going to incite IMC by calling them names or telling other players theyā€™re complete crap for having a opinion that differs from mine.
No, I will not agree with all of those complaints and gripes but most likely would if they were written in a more constructive way than, ā€œFU IMC WHY U DO DIS!ā€

Iā€™m done. The negativity of some people is down right disturbing. I would rather be positive and blind, then negative and hateful.

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@scarethemonkeys yes I second what you said. There are too many of the ā€œIMC if you donā€™t do this donā€™t do that Iā€™ll quit or suchā€ threads.

Whatever, Im saying these type of threads arent helpfull either as they are here to bait people into these type of arguments. Thats it. How about we actually see a real appreciation post? or people talking about the stuff they like in a game? not a list of lets vote whos the best people in forum and who are the trollers lmao thats what im saying.

If we were talking about lets say per example, HEY have you guys seen the new costumes? What do you think about them? Or Have you guys seen the new content? What do you think about it? Etc Etc. Those threads are welcomed as they are here to talk about game content and your personal experience with the game, but this thread? just a shiā€¦ty bait honestly.

My 25 minutes of reading wasted. NOICEEE

nice point of view, im sure they wont answer to you because you are pointing obvious things.

Have you seen those threads? The ones that start off with ā€œHey! Something Positive?ā€ They turn into an instance flame the OP fest. There is no winning to this no matter what side youā€™re on. The best perspective is from the middle.

Forums have always been where a small % of the player-base go to vent. At-least in most games. There are very few positive threads to be found in the MMO scene because most people who feel good about the game are playing and donā€™t care to read the garbage that spews from the Forums. Hell, I tell myself everyday to stay away from these forums, but there are people here I generally like, and enjoy reading their post; irregardless if they are negative or positive.

Anywaysā€¦

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Probably the first and only time Iā€™ll agree with you,but yes.Seeing the population as low as it is there,itā€™s probably the best course of action at this point.The current situation isnā€™t very fair to them.

^______^ I never said you did darlinā€™. Bless your heart, itā€™s a damn shame you canā€™t just learn to tell the difference between commentary and criticism but then again Iā€™m pretty sure if you had a direct hand of that your lil heart might burst. Thatā€™s why we use ā€œsomeonesā€ ā€œpeopleā€ ā€œtheyā€ and the plural of ā€œyouā€ ā€”to draw the comparison and contrast in attitudes. Iā€™m sure that if you passed high school English or actually, thatā€™s something in every language and culture as far as Iā€™m aware. Itā€™s something that is considered a basic function of survival because we have to compare and contrast for survival but that IS getting offtopic! ^^

And actually, commending players for their behavior in game and in the forums should be in general. Itā€™s a thread about the general behavior of the playersā€“in response to other community members. And let me repeat this one more time, just so it can sink in, as Iā€™m sure you didnā€™t hear me right the first time, while it could be moved to off-topic taking time to interact and commend other players that youā€™ve had positive interactions with belongs quite validly in the General section! Iā€™m also pleased to inform you thatā€¦

In fact, itā€™s one of the merits that even folks with an unpleasant attitude and limited capacity to understand view points beyond their own head-in-anus mentality should be able to grasp! Because the biggest resource of the game isā€¦ wait for itā€¦ ^ ^ are you excited? Iā€™m excited to tell you~~

the players! Thatā€™s right! When it comes to new or returning community members it also helps to see which individuals are considered to have a balanced behavior in what they have to say about the game. Itā€™s 2016 we really donā€™t do the black/white thing anymore, itā€™s considered a pretty big social faux pas to be too far on way or the other (I know, shocking isnā€™t it???). In fact extreme fanboi or hate is considered blatantly obvious and stupid.

But AN-Y-WAY~ Iā€™m sure you consider your opinions to totally be contributing to the thread and none of your comments are at all personal attacks because those are considered against the forum rules and Iā€™m sure youā€™ve read that~ riiiight?

Itā€™s especially relieving because most players had fairly positive things to say about the rest of the community until you came along you bright lil spot of sunishine :slight_smile: Even if the OP intended it as bait, nearly every post has been nice and with the exception of pointing out some very obvious trolls on the forum, Iā€™ve not seen harmful. The sad thing is when people do, and feel free to look at my topic history for further proof of this, make genuinely positive and/or helpful threadsā€“players that you echo in attitude come along and piss all over it.

@WryKeg no on claimed to be keeping it fluff, the person Iā€™m responding to is deliberately trying to derail the thread and bait other players. Itā€™s a shame because whatever the intention of the OP, most of us have been positive as I stated in the last paragraph. No one has claimed that they were going to ā€œkeep it all fluffā€ but it is a fluff thread. Itā€™s not something thatā€™s being taken seriously by anyone until this crap started and just threw a wrench in the works. This happens with almost every post anyone makes. You arenā€™t given space to enjoy anything on the forums because you get flamed for it quite literally. Iā€™ve had several people who have just quit posting or just leave due to this kind of behavior.

Luckily I find it amusing as hell most days, and Iā€™m not easily scared off. Itā€™s just a drop of rain on my shoulder.

@scarethemonkeys I have really been cutting back because I realized that I was starting to get pretty unpleasant myself. That plus a lot of my tongue in cheek humor and sarcasm goes right over a lot of peopleā€™s heads ;;ā€¦ Iā€™m taken seriously way too often. And yeah, you really cannot be positive on here. It takes usually less than a day for it to get turned from something helpful/positive/ect ('cept the class forums, those seem pretty relevant most of the time thankfully) into all the justā€¦ I donā€™t even have words for it. =___= They really, REALLY need to start moderating the forums.

Edit; Iā€™d go back and edit all the damn typos I just noticed but Iā€™m running on like 3 hours of sleep and dealing with babysitting 10 animals atm.

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Iā€™d do it for free. :stuck_out_tongue: and with balance. These forums need MVPā€™s or something.

=_____= I totally would help but I figure Iā€™m considered a bit on the opinionated side. I tried suggesting something like that but it got mixed responses to say the least, haha. Ugh I need coffee.

I have my more opinionated topics as well, but Iā€™d gladly accept the challenge. And I sincerely mean this in the way of, actually moderating the forums and not just post I donā€™t like/agree with.

Oh me too. Thereā€™s a big difference between personal posts and actually putting on the roll of a moderator. @_o;

Finding people who can draw that lineā€¦ that can be a little difficult.

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Agreed,I would also be up for it despite the beating youā€™d get for having STAFF_ attached to your name.It seems worthwhile to me and Julie proved that the effort can make a difference.Over time I think weā€™d be able to make another turn around.

Although I think if they were to get so far as to hire a CM/mods more fluent in English,the game would be improving further anyway and maybe things would be different here?

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100% Agree. I do believe a lot of it has to do with the language barrier. You get these; often times botched replies by the GM/DEVs that make you wonder. We as a community could use another few like Julie.

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@Rabbit I havenā€™t been talking about anyone specific as Iā€™ve answered to the thread as a whole so to my argument itā€™s irrelevant what drama has already been going on above.
As for the particular adjective, it was simply still on my mind after skimming over some posts.

I have already stated why claiming itā€™s just casual small-talk is invalid. Itā€™s an obvious straw man fallacy to say a topic you donā€™t take seriously isnā€™t something for anyone to care about. Claiming this wouldā€™ve stayed a minor fun if you didnā€™t fall victim to the rampant thread derailment on this forum is just another straw man argument.

Most people dont browse the off-topics section of a forum at all. To them, general fullfills the same purpose.

Is this thread about praising the game? No, it is not.

Ara, ara. My, arenā€™t we rather harsh.

Is it too hard to argue with actual arguments?

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