This is why Swordsman is good.
This. If you play Cataphract well you dont need to stop and block, omg you get the best mobility class to stop and block?
IF you dont have a Plague D. in enemy party you will be OP, if u got, you need to go calm to use your restrain and rush, thats it.
It’s increase block pen, not ignore 40% block, so what are you taking spr for?
But c3 cata look like a good way for pvp sw :3.
I think everyone shouldn’t be sad, we don’t know what rank 8 9 10 classes are so we can hope our solutions are in those rank :3
Ok my line of reasoning is this:
- Cataphract c3 is necessary for trot, that’s your ranks 4-6
- The best rank 7 to complement this is Dragoon due to the strong burst damage
- 2H spear is necessary over 1H spear due to the much stronger physical attack it gives over 1H spear
- If getting finestra over max restrain, finestra decreases evasion a lot so guardian lv 1 becomes useless
- Finestra is recommended over restrain because of passive +3 range on your attacks, which may be the difference between a kill hit or a miss. This is assuming u are against pro groups with Plague doctor present. You can choose restrain instead but be reminded that the stun is still only 40% proc and it’s useless against top PVP vs PD groups
cus spr increase your block pen, if u dont have any u will increase 40% of the base block pen that is too low to ignore stone skin
There is new items with Block penetration and I’m sure they will continue to make more in the future and as the level cap increases.So 40% of those gear/weapon you get from block penetration to stack on your primary BP is quite a lot to me imo.
So SPR won’t be needed (eventually) but for now there isn’t much gear/weapon that as BP but give it time.
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I agree with you, but still i think Restrain still beter than finestra, tha only gives you 3+ range, because de critrate buff is to low to be any good.
By saying that, I think is better to have Restrain for some ocasions than not having at all.
But all other points you made I 100% agreed.
surely the best thing about swordsman is have 30 of every 40 seconds immune to being knockdown.
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Wrong. There are no counters. Compare your 200*1.6=320 block pen with their 2k block.
Stuns aren’t that bad, you just have to use it while BL is down.
Also I’ve heard a rumour that if enemy is afflicted with bleed bloodletting will cause massie bleed. So swordsmen with bleed might work (though never tested it myself).
Also you won’t be CCed using Iron Hook because you have your own PD.
And you can catch 3 of them leaving your teammates fight 4 v 2.
So the only real broblem left is Stone Skin, and it SHOULD be nerfed.
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You forgot about stone skin, I assume.
If a cleric doesnt go P.Doctor… then its a crappy player.
Tell it to 7x counterattack on your snipe.(I know it’s overexaggerating, but still…). Anyway, there are quite a lot of Kabbalists in top 50 for a reason, it’s very underestimated.
Now they can’t. Why? Stone Skin. Dragoon is so OP because he has Impale. So getting enemy PD and carrying to your team. Too OP PvP skill by itself (not taking into account insane MS). After Stone Skin nerf Cata definitely should be next (for PvP). Otherwise they will occupy top 50 instead.
It works insanely good with Swordsman C3, since you apply a stun every time you spin. Have seen some vids with Dragoon/Doppel.
It’s not true, Templar is the least used and Featherfoot is just as rare as Kabbalist.
You are right on this point. Hop 1 and Pel 1 won’t help in PvP at all (EVA/Block doesn’t matter too much and finestra/hoplite skills are quite weak in PvP). High 2 might be good because of bleed, but I’m not sure if the rumour about it not being nullified by Bloodltting is true.
Swordsmen best bet is to stunlock enemy PD/Main DD while Bloodletting is on CD. Lots of them ignore Beak Mask for some reason.
You will most likely have a priest in your party so why should you care? And anyway pel 1 won’t help you too much, unless you have heavy CON DEX build.
But there is only 1 rank 7 for swordies…
Show me the build+item set that grants you 500 block pen without investing any point in SPR and I will agree you are right. Otherwise what’s the point if you won’t deal damage. And if they will release gear with 2k block pen then block and SPR will become useless. It’s much easier(and more clever) to simply nerf Stone Skin.
Works only on autos. Useless.
That’s the second main point for Swordsman C3. You get ignore to CC from PD and you have ignore to Knockbacks. So you are free to do anything you want.
Dont forget that, but that has no counters no matter what build, swordsman vs stoneskin cant win. xD
Maybe a full SPR swordsman xD
Bleed is a rank 1 AS which Bloodletting,Beak Mask and Prophecy can prevent.The bleed from Bloodletting is a condition so it won’t interrupt your skills nor casting time.And you don’t lose a lot of HP do to the condition bleed from Bloodletting.
And please for the love of god (no disrespect) enough with the QQ and whine about Stone Skin skill we all know about it and IMC will come up with a way to balance it all eventually.I have seen so much post by you that I had to skip most of them because of your constant whining.But beside that I have seen good feedback from you in the forums for a person who have NEVER played the game beside the whole QQ about block.
You can be CC from Iron Hook regardless if you got Beak Mask,Bloodletting or Prophecy.You CANNOT prevent nor cleanse Corsair Iron Hook.
No sense. You won’t break through block anyway. Difference is just too big.
1.About bleed. I’ve seen somewhere on the forum that if you use Bloodletting while already bleeding, you will get Massive bleeding status effect (that deals lots of damage and has a duration of 20 seconds). Not sure if it’s true.
- I complain about Stone Skin everywhere, so more people can better understand the size of the problem. Because numbers are just broken (if even me who never played the game can tell this).
3.That’s what I mean. But OP said enemies can interrupt Iron Hook, I just pointed that you have PD(and pain barrier) as well, so they CAN’T.
And that’s true I’ve never played the game and it’s a shame for me. That’s why I thoroughly learned the mechanics in order to not lose too much comparing with CBT/kOBT players.
Also I found the mechanics of this game to be really interesting and I have lots of fun just theorycrafting, but I hope it will be even better when I start playing.
Impale doesn’t work on PD with Bloodletting or Beak Mask.
Imaple is a rank 1 AS
Yep, I wrote about it later, that you will do it just as Blood letting ends. Before that you just have to run around avoiding damage.
You won’t get the PD but you might get his comrades perhaps.You can rotate an endless loop with Bloodletting and Beak Mask for yourself.However, you can still knocdown or push them back to get that window open for yourself.But if you don’t stop the PD then they will most likely for PVP have that loop where they can never be CC.
I doubt with your bloodletting bleeding and the other bleed would overcome Healing Factor but wtv…lol.
I’ve said exactly the same about PD) Just added that I’ve seen lots of builds where PD don’t get Beak Mask for some reason.
It won’t, but HF is single target. Just focus on anyone else while HF is active. Yet bleed will deal some damage and force PD to cast HF. (But anyway I doubt that this rumour is true).
It’s hard to imagine a PD in PVP gets hit by a rank 1 bleed to begin with.
A PD should always start off with Bloodletting and HF as soon the countdown begins in the Arena and should always have that endless loop with Beak Mask but hey that’s just my opinion.
I’m talking about just random member hit with bleed. But anyway, it’s not congfirmed, so no sense to discuss.
Also, I have a question about Incineration+Pandemic. You’ve posted this combo doesn’t work, so you’ve tested it and the incineration debuff doesn’t spread?
I thought Finestra attribute gives +3 AoE ratio, not Attack Range that only works on auto attack