so this build is bad in early lvl for level up ? its only strong if u max attribut oblique shot ? too much money :s
The build is very strong to level up with early. Itās not until rank4 when it starts to falloff.
how good is Steady Aim for this kind of build? :o
Hello guys!
Iām going for this SPR 2:DEX1 Build. Iām already Archer C2 but iām no sure about going archer C3 or Hunter C1 before get Wugushi C1/2/3.
I put hunter on the table because i think he has some skills that i think can be useful in combat.
What do u guys think?
Steady shot is really nice to spam oblique with, especially if you train the attribute too.
There are hunters in that have mentioned that rush dog is a good skill, but the pet is really unresponsive/slow. I gave my thoughts on wugushi a few times in the thread. And SPR2:DEX1 is fine.
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So, i donāt think hunter C1 before Wugushi is worth it. Maybe it is better to go with Oblique Shot 15 then.
I wasnāt thinking about the hunter C1 because of rush dog,i think about the gain in mobility and the suport of the pet.
Or maybe Scout for Rank 4 before get wugushi.
I think that Archer C3 and Wugushi C3 is only damage and i want some control.
Because of my lack os experience in ToS i donāt know which choice is worth it or not.
Hunter is plain bad. The pet is dumb as bread, scales bad later on and most of the skills are useless pet stances that do nothing on bosses or just affect a single target (Detect Hidden enemies anyone? haha). You could play an Archer C3, buy a pet and all you miss out is Rush Dog and a small buff on your pet.
can u tell me your gem setup?
can i place my experiences here?
ive done every variation of stat allocation that all of you think would be or should be viable. full str full dex full spr (skip the con and the int) or hybrids of 1/1 ratios or 2/1 ratios or 3/1 ratios or 1/2ās 1/3ās whatever. Ive tried them all.
I play archer circle 2 hunter 1 scout 1 rogue 1. as of right now. I knew hunter ai was shoddy before i picked into it. I knew rogue vendetta was horrendous before i picked into it.
I wanted to touch on ppl talking about maxing or lvling up the oblique shot attribute. If you use the skill weather you are spamming it with sp. or you are full str or full dex or a hybrid of the 2, you still want to lvl your oblique shot attribute. I seen some say ābut if you have to max that attribute for you to be effectiveāā¦ thats not the caseā¦ it doesnt matter your stat specsā¦ You should be maxing or lvling up whatever skills attributes youāre using regardless.
there are a couple thousand ppl above 100, split that through the 4 classes, and youāre looking at 25 archers or so per server.
So let me give you lvl 70ish examples from my experiences with the different stat setups. full dex is going to make your skills hit the hardest. I thought str would, because every time you increase the stat you get DMGā¦ basically with full str you get high white dmg. but little amounts of critsā¦ you can still only cast your oblique (provided you have it 5 or 10) a handful of times before you have to pop a potion. With full dex, your white dmg is still 100-200 behind what your oblique was with full strā¦ HOWEVER you crit 100% 80% 90% whatever it isā¦ and those crits are 300-400 dmg more than what it was like with your full str build. both full stat builds have crap sp. so 5-6 shots and your manas out and your popping a potion.
now if you go hybrid builds, 1:1 2:1 in str/spr or dex/spr, you increase your exp/hour. you get more shots with your mana pool and your skills barely do less than what they were beforeā¦ but you still have only 1k-1.2k mana, that gets depleted fast, and you are still dumping money into your sp potions if you want to be a nonstop farmer. the āquicksitā feature isnt helping you that much yet because you get 1-2 extra shots per sit. 2 skills right after quicksit and you are back to waiting 9 more seconds for another quicksit, thats spent just autoingā¦
The sweet spot for archer in this game is around 2000 sp.
if you go full sp you will hit the sweet spot sooner. around 2k sp you can start to quicksit and continue to keep your mana full no matter what. you can spam oblique nonstop with no downtime. no sp pot consumption and that means you have had MORE money to dump into your oblique attritube. What that means is there are full SP ppl out there that can cast their oblique 40x or so per full mana. all of them hitting as hard or close to as hard as your full str or full dex. hybrid str/dex builds because all that money they didnt spend on potions or they didnt spend at a bonfire with really bad sp regen went to increases their base oblique dmg.
now after about 2k mana, this is where the archer can stop pumping sp. There really is no point at this point. this is where you start pumping str or dex. In my opinion your next major milestone is getting your crit as near 100% as possible. if its 25% increased crit chance from swift step always up, then you need to only work on 70-75% moreā¦ If you get that from gems, good!.. then you can pump str.
How you build is up to you. But in my opinion you get the MOST out of your pre 2000 sp characters by going pure sp. what you do once your past that major part is up to you.
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@umut_chb_15 I use blue gems in gloves and red gems in my bow, havenāt bothered with any other pieces.
@brandoncotten Nice write up m8 
I disagree with this or maybe you got iron bow crit attack +74, Iām an original STR/DEX [str as dominant]. and I made a stat reset and do DEX/STR I then goes back to STR/DEX coz Iām not impress with damage. remember ā¦ if you donāt have STR you donāt have critical attack it will stay on 10.
the difference with STR dominant and DEX dominant is STR build are made to kill monsters fastā¦ while DEX are build to last and stall until monsters are dead.
what I did as STR was up the attribute of swift step so I got 25% crit chance + 50DEX and that 50DEX evasion is doubled by leather mastery attribute ā¦+50% evasion. so in short I have the same amount of evasion as a 100DEX build. and the same amount of Crit chance of a 75 Dex coz of the swift attribute.
my Crit on an STR on one monster was around 1.4k and compare to a DEX build which only crit 450
not to mention if you add 100 to your STR you have a bonus of 50 while on DEX there is only 10.
STR are good for killing fast, people think +100 [actually +150 coz of the bonus] was so little, well that 150 is equivalent additional 2250 damage on multishot. and if you max the crit chance attribute of multi shot you get 6k additional damage. this goes the same with barrageā¦ Every time Iām in a tight situation I just use barrage and all enemies in front of me are deadā¦ [and thatās only for lvl10 barrage on an STR]
If and only they will add attack speed on DEX that is when Iām going to build oneā¦ coz attack speed will surely change the game on both builds.
I have never have any problem with STR buildā¦ I have done all quest alone without party youāll be amaze of what an STR can do to a boss fight. when you use full draw with max decrease defense attributeā¦ [-50% defense] you rekt them out with multishot
the only annoying part in this build is the cooldownā¦ it needs time to be used to it. it will be a good thing if we voice out about this and atleast add an attribute to decrease cooldown of certain skills
if you look closely there are always 4 skill being present on any archer type class. 2 of them are for STR/DEX and 2 for SPR type buildā¦ yeah those who have cooldown are for STR and DEX build those that has no cooldown most probably always end up for SPR type.
how about this build
3 spr : 1 dex
Finally get Ranger c3. But iād say Archer c3 is better, because Archer c3 is rank 3 class and can deals massive damage with Oblique Shot lv 15, Multi shot lv 15.
110 Str Ranger c3 fighting againt same boss in #1 post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw05x42hQwk
Bounce shot is decent, the only thing good is Barrage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Yyxi4__Fo
High Anchoring lv 15 is beast, but it takes lots of skill points.
Archer c2 Sapper c2 and Archer c3 Wusughi can do aoe damage better.
Spiral Arrow is instant cast.
But i feel these skills on rank 4 class is not worth.
And i just misselled my Sestas bow for 50k on the market, i remembered putting Gulail bow but idkā¦ Maybe its time to rest, try new class or build.
If you wanted to be useful to an AoE group wouldnt falconeer be EXTREMELY useful? I mean being able to lower the AoE defense is massive DPS increase for any AoE group tbh you could build your archer anyway you wanted really and just make sure to take falconeer for the 6th circle. Almost makes me wonder what the future falconeers skills will be. Be cool if i could pick up enemies and drop them for AoE dmg from a huge height.
That much is true but I never lost a duel either. 24 seconds of silence through coursing - which doesnt cancel on usage of rush dog just stops autoattacks is enough to destroy pretty much everyone 1vs1.
But yeah the damage falls off, pet levels are always below your level - which might change if the rates are lowered for release, as he only gains xp from mob kills and yet the player character mostly does from xp cards.
If Iād this would be the first day of beta and I would start it with the knowledge I have Iād most likely go either archer 1/ranger 2/wugushi2/sr or archer 3/wugushi 2/sr, its only a question between the stat distribution, archer is better for a crit build because of swift step and ranger if its an str build because of steady aimās bonus to each target you hit with your aoe.
Iām still enjoying being a hunter I just dont enjoy relying so much on others - my pet in this case.
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Just to Ranger C3 earlier as well, Spiral Shotās a pretty good upgrade from Multishot that often crits like mad as well (attribute was cheap anyway). Bounce Shotās pretty good, especially when Barrage is on cooldown or you just donāt wanna go close to mobs/bosses.
Overall, pretty worth to get those skills though, assuming youāre just into PVE and not a fan of PVP. Also, it might not be a direct damage upgrade but you do get more utility in your kit.
Back on topic, I just tried this 1:1 SPR : DEX build on my C2 Ranger and I never had to consume a single SP potion. Ever. Damage was slightly lackluster because I didnāt have many attributes learned. Build was super useful to solo and sustain as mentioned but comes out meh when you need more damage/have a party to do stuff.
im hunter, and i went into the class knowing that the ai was horrible. knowing that the pet lvled up differently or slower than me was a nonfactor. i still planned on being soloā¦
i mainly went hunter for the knowledge that it would be the absolute best circle pre rogue for pvp. with its debuffs on enemy - evasion - physical resistance, a fear, a silence and and stun all from just 3 skills in the first circleā¦ ohh and a + crit chance?.. jeezus christā¦ this is going to be a pvp dominator for only 1 circle. but they really need to fix its ai. once that happens. youāll see every rogue that wants to dominate in pvp have 1 hunter circle.
i have enjoyed being a high SPR wugushi with lv75 oblique shot attribute,
i believe during around lv160 or so, it wouldnt work that well now.
However in open beta, how would u change this stats distribution?
im afraid of being too reliant towards this SPR build without the status points reset scroll in Open Beta, @imaginaryfoe
Would a 3spr: 1str stat build worth?
Im planning to make a c3 archer/ c3wugushi with this build.
I think the damage from wugushi would be greater when I add some str on my stats or is dex better?
I guess the archer will get some decent changes until open beta. And other classes as well cuz they arent rly balanced. And I think the core stats STR/INT/CON/SPR/DEX will get a fix as well since right now [ DEX > all ] when it comes to endgame and this cant actually stay as it is 
SO we have to wait.
But when I look at everything, you can start as full spr and pump everything to SPR until 100 and then start to pump everything into dex. U can easily rech max crit with gear and above. Since flat crit dmg is not that great IMO u can just put sp regen into gloves and crit rate into weapon and an oblique shot lv15 will crit beyond everything else.
So my build will be ez start as spr archer and then go into crit.