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Extremely Problematic Shinobi Quest

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#1

Good morning everyone.
I come here with a request to reduce the difficulty of the quest for Shinobi.
After upgrading from day 16, many of us could trade their classes, but the difficulty of the missions to release the Hidden Classes increased by at least 10 times.
A massive amount of people are losing days and days trying to collect the [Yellow-Eyed Flower Petal]. Waiting 3.5 to 4pm in only one location with more than 10 people competing with you, is not very pleasant. At least make the flower appear faster, please.

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Bom dia Ă  todos.
Venho aqui com um pedido de redução da dificuldade da quest para Shinobi.
Após a atualização do dia 16, muitos puderamo trocar suas classes, porém a dificuldade das missÔes para liberar as Hidden Classes aumentou pelo menos 10 vezes.
Uma quantidade massiva de pessoas estĂŁo perdendo dias e dias tentando coletar a [Yellow-Eyed Flower Petal]. Esperar 3,5 Ă  4h em apenas uma localização com mais de 10 pessoas competindo com vocĂȘ, nĂŁo Ă© muito agradĂĄvel. Ao menos façam com que a flor apareça mais rĂĄpido, por favor.

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#2

Concordo, isso Ă© falta de respeito com o player, nĂŁo Ă© lĂłgico fazer uma quest desse tipo.

#3

Hidden classes quests are supposed to be hard, though. If someone really wants that hidden class, they should invest their time on it even if it takes days or months to achieve.

#4

Well I just wanna say good luck then, let the fastest man win.

#5

There’s a difference between a hard quest and a blank quest, boring and hateful one-time spawning item.

A hard quest would be something involving you to drop different things, some rare, that you could still buy on the market, creating a way for some to get money, or eliminate a large quantity of hard-to-kill enemies in the level range.

Here you’re just waiting, hating everyone else for being with you. Where is difficulty involved?

It’s been 2 weeks I changed my fencer to corsair, now still waiting to be shinobi.
Guess what, not everyone has days or months to spend in a game for a class, some people need to work and/or can’t be there at the given time.

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#6

A nice topic indeed. Hope IMC look this and one day make something different about this
it’s obviously a very problematic quest. Some of my friends just gave up the idea of becoming a shinobi because of this quest.

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#7

Difficulty is not limited to killing x number of mobs or fighting x number of bosses. Waiting, cooperating with other players, and moving from x place to another is what makes this quest difficult. If we’ll define difficulty as “a thing that is hard to accomplish, deal with, or understand”, then the current quest still fits the description.

If you don’t have the patience to do all these “boring” tasks for a hidden class, then consider dropping it and get another class.

#8

Not only Shinobi, Miko and Appraiser too, like I don’t understand why Chaplain quest which is also a hidden class takes about 15 minutes to become a Chaplain while the other 3 have to spend quite a few hours not even doing anything at all, just looking at their screen with anxiety if it’s going to spawn or not to become their desired class, what’s the point? there’s no challenge in that, just an un-fun timesink not everyone has the time to do, they should’ve done something similar to those quests like what they did for Chaplain.

I myself did the Miko quest and spent about 24 hours doing it because the Spirit of Klaipeda didn’t wanted to appear, camped there for 12 hours straight until it finally decided to appear, is that really fair? 12 hours I could’ve been doing something like farming or anything just looking at my screen without any possibility to do something else, it’s just an un-fun and annoying way to introduce hidden classes, some people might even skip them because they simply can’t be arsed to put themselves through it and I can’t blame them, since it’s just stupid.

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#9

Making Chaplain hard to attain won’t make sense considering you’ve already sacrificed 3 circles to unlock the class (Chaplain requires Priest C3).

Chaplain is the only hidden class that has a class prerequisite.

#10

Please stop defending horrible game design. No other game will make you wait almost 24 hours to pick up an object in game. Its criminal. Not to mention the game is advertised as a casual game. This is far from casual.

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#11

I’d concede if the class that we’re talking about here isn’t a hidden class. It’s pretty simple. You want the hidden class? You’'ll have to go the extra mile to get it.

These hidden classes will end up as just a merely ‘unlisted class’ if they’re easy to attain. Heck, let’s just call them unlisted class since people doesn’t have the patience to do these quests that they aren’t required to do.

People these days. Things are easy, they complain. Things got hard, they complain.

#12

I think this about Hidden classes:
they could be hard to do but they should be powerfull.
Otherwise, they could be easy to do but they should be normal.

No sense spend a lot of hours for a flower, spirit, rune etcetc and the class isn’t so good:

  • miko nerf, they nerft it in every patch
  • runecaster pretty useless compared to other mage classes
  • shinobi is powerfull only for clones, other spells are
 meh

  • appraiser is only a buffer/shop
  • chaplain is the only one who is good. You have to “sacrifice” 3 Circle for Priest 3 to do it and he can buff and do dmg.

Now is “hard” to do a hidden class, so I think they should be pretty strong, not OP like before, but honestly: why a player should pick for example Runecaster?
Yeah, Cryo-psycho-rune is pretty strong, but
 When you put the wall the boss is already dead


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#13

If I had no life or job this would be no issue. But since I’m your average joe with a job, spending 8-12 hrs on a quest item is unreasonable.

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#14

I also have a job; working on tasks that require me to work even If I’m not at my workplace. More than half of my day is dedicated to work. Add the stressful transportation system in my country.

Go allot some time during the weekends. If you can’t do that, then forget about that hidden class and pick up another class.

#15

I can relate to this, i’m trying myself getting a shinobi and jesus freaking christ, so annoying. Already saw the flower 4 times after long hours of waiting and no luck.

just WHY? at least change it so the flower can stay there for maybe 10 seconds so more people can get it. Waiting 6 hours it’s okay but waiting it repeatedly is bullshit. Then when people start macroing sh.it to get it u think it’s bad, but i’m not judging them for the god sake.

Worst quest design ive ever seen in any game.

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#16

As if this was not enough, now people are opening shops and Squire Tents on top of the flower spawn to make it impossible to hit the flower with interaction button (Space or B). The spawn time is not the worst thing. At least do something about those who does not needs the flower and keep going there to harass the ones that need. Make it impossible to interact without having the quest and impossible to open shops near the flower (near statues and NPCs would be good too).

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