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Experimental Full shield and sword Murm. The Tank One

Lvl 1 guardian is enough. 10% Defense is not bad. What is the most important thing is to focus your skill points on Umbo / Shooting star. Either max both or just max Shooting Star and leave Umbo at 6 / 10.

Actually, High Guard atk penalty has been reduced to -7% atk. It’s more useful now. The same thing happened to Guardian, at lv1 it reduces atk by 2%.

Lv1 Guardian is enough most of the time, the best atk to def ratio is Lv2 I think, for some reason you get +2% extra def but not more atk penalty at that lv. In my case after the skill reset I got lv10, that’s +35% def and -14% atk. Gotta say I don’t feel the atk reduction that much.

Also that build is ok, it is what I used before the reset. The only difference is that I had Lv1 on Shield Lob for novelty and Lv1 Umbo Thrust because back then Umbo Thrust Lvs didn’t increase the armor break debuff uptime. I also had maxed Frenzied Slash but it’s not that good on PVE. It doesn’t rely on AoE ratio for number of targets but skill Lv, but even with 9K base dmg you really don’t have anything to push this dmg further like a slash debuff.

@everyone I would like to ask if I should use Five hammer as an alternative to 220-300+ Weapons so I could save for Practo 315 purple. As you can see, Five Hammer’s biggest Advantage is the 5 slots for gems, But I’m worried that it’s base damage would make it dmg much lower than my Catacomb Blade.

Does adding Red gems increase my raw damage?

Should I upgrade it to +10?

Should I transcend it?

Should I awaken it?

I think thats fine , it’s the most efficient that way just use it all the way till 300

and no need to overupgrade nor transcend nor awaken - save these for ur practo weapons

Five Hammer is pretty good, that +5 AoE ratio is a a life saver. I use a 5 hammer with five Lv 7 red gems. It’s on par with teh catacombs blade including it’s strike bonus dmg (my +8 five hammer has around 110 atk + 775 average dmg from gems)

Upgrade, trascend and awakening don’t do much to it because it is a Lv40 weapon, so the base atk isn’t great for trascend and the awakening is going to be low on stats. Also, you really can’t upgrade it that much or awake it because you’re going to use all of its 5 potential into opening its gem slots. You might wanna make 2 or 3 hammers and see how far you can upgrade before losing potential, after that is golden anvil rolls but dunno if they ever fixed the golden anvil issue where it still consumed potential after failing.

Lastly, you may want to pass the hammer around to Lv alts, so that’s another
negative on trascending.

by the way, how are pel3-rode3-murm doing damage wise for bosses and rank8 content and stuff?

Dmg wise, my non dex build with LV 50 attrs, a lv3 trascend Pierene Sword, 3 +100 atk headgears and including debuffs it goes from 40k to 70k per skill on my strongest skills (Butterfly, Shooting star, Scuttum, Headbutt, Targe Smash on Frozen mobs). Same conditions 20k to 40k Umbo Blow, RimBlow (high guard on these two), Shield Bash, Shield Shoving. Next tier is 10k-20k with Langort and Evade thrust on pierce weak enemies.

A Dex build should be pulling higher numbers.

thanks!

i really wanna give murmillo a shot but after looking at how much it costs to level up the necessary attributes… I dont know how i am gonna find that much silver lol! especailly since im fairly new :c

The most cost is mainly the murmillo casis crista attributes, it’s really pricy, you better start getting headbutt debuff atributes, then multi hit increase attribute, then rodel ones and last pelt. But at end game you should start go get much more money, like 500k per day if you full run 290 dungeon, I would recommend to sell whatever rare stuff you get on market that you don’t need, that’s recipes, items and gear, or maybe use an alt specifically made to generate money.

If you’re lucky you might get some rare stuffs from dungeons.

As of now, I’m doing fine through R7 maps Quest Grinding to skip map grinds and so. Skill damage is on par with mob lvl and debuffs will make it much more easier. I’m getting closer to my target questline of 250 since my Rod is currently 254. Luckily I was able to push this character on R8 maps for the x4 card bonus event and thus, making me jump 'til 320 or so.

Noted. I already did a test run with my 1st Five Hammer. +9 with 3 durability left. So I should open the slots 1st before upgrading and sad that, the awakening and transcendence isn’t doing well for it.

the potential of five hammer will drop to 0 when u open all five slot and it has 5 total…so what u did means u can now only open 3 of them? since there are only 3 potential left or its still possible?

btw im planning of making a SW3+ROD3+Corsair+murmillo for pvp

would i lose a lot of dps going for sw3 instead of pelt?

i just feel like pelt3 wont benefit much in the future and that i wouldnt really use the pelt skills since ROD3 and murmillo got a ton of dps skills already

pain barrier and restrain will never be obsolete

and also planning to do the CON/DEX build but i want to put some str too…what would be a good balance of stat for a pvp murmillo?

If you can ditch Corsair for either Shinobi / Squire that’ll be great.

You aren’t dropping that much DPS, Armor break + Buttlerfly pretty much, unless we start getting high def mobs. I guess that build mainly for PvP and Restrain should do wonders on PvE.

hi cauyao it’s nammy :DDDDDDDDD

Oh yeah, I’ve already mentioned that silver is not much of a problem for now thanks to my Doppel.

-290 Rush
-Uphill gem dusts will yield you a LVL 7 Gem within 2-3 days with 3 characters for it. You can sell the Gem for 5.5M since 6M is the base price and mostly overpriced.

Uosis farming is a good alternative but with bots lurking the map, I’m having a hard time farming it.

lolz u still playing? i just came back playing after 8 month break but im now playing at varena

edit: holy crap i didnt noticed your name when i was reading this thread yesterday

i think corsair is a must for pvp for my build…hook is pretty OP form of hard cc that could hold multiple targets

similar to you, i was on a 6-month break lol. im on fedimian cos I study in EU right now.

lol cool

btw what class path did u decide for ur murmillo?

im still undecided whether to go sw3 or pelt3

seems like sw3 would be better in pvp but is pelt’s armor break really that good? whats the chance of triggering it? and how long does it last?