Ichoring is just gamble… 5% to become ichor, or die trying XD
while transmute is consuming
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Thanks for the input about transmutation. I’ve adjusted the guide so that it doesn’t suggest that you need three items of the exact same name.
Edit: Also added a section directly comparing 100% transmutation against extraction into transmutation. I can go into how to calculate the break-even point if someone likes, but I just wanted to demonstrate that there is a point where they feel roughly equivalent.
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thanks a lot for your guide 
explaining ichoring to new players is always a pain, it’ll make me save so much time
you earned your popo
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Updated the numbers for ichor unequiping. It’s really cheap to get your ichors back and move them around between different pieces of gear. It’s only 36k in silver!
I probably should update the guide to factor in the future ichoring changes. I’ve been busy lately so I might not do it anytime soon (especially since I don’t think we’re getting the changes anytime soon). I’ll put them here for reference, though.
- 5% chance of success -> 10% chance of success when extracting
- 3 items to transmute -> 2 items to transmute
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Apparently some people linked my guide so now I feel pressured to update it. I’ll redo the numbers sometime this weekend. It’ll also be useful for me to actually process the numbers rather than go by my gut feeling, as I have been doing since the advent of Ep12.
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Is it easier now to extract weapon/armor Ichors using the standard extraction method?
I’m not a fan of ichoring, but I love this guide.
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It’s certainly more appealing for a lot of different reasons. The obvious one being that the success rate is twice what it once was (5% -> 10%). This alone is huge and we can calculate the overall success rate of the standard method and find the following numbers:
| Potential | Old | New |
|---|---|---|
| 13 | 51.2% | 77.1% |
| 12 | 48.7% | 74.6% |
| 11 | 46.0% | 71.8% |
| 10 | 43.1% | 68.6% |
| 9 | 40.1% | 65.1% |
| 8 | 37.0% | 61.3% |
| 5 | 26.5% | 46.9% |
It should come as a surprise to nobody that on average you’d break less items using the standard method than in the past.
It’s also much more affordable now. Most players have an excess of sierra powder, so attempts at extraction feel like they just cost the 100k silver for an extraction kit. In the past silver ichor kits did away with sierra powder costs, but they weren’t accessible to most players. But now it feels a lot cheaper to attempt ichoring, so it feels ‘easier’ to afford attempting it.
I also made a spreadsheet to calculate the effective cost of making an ichor. You can make a copy of it and play around with it. What’s surprising to me is that straight extraction is consistently cheaper than all other options, up until the item’s value passes about 75m for the parameters I chose. So, probably over 100m you’d just throw golden ichor kits in the mix. At least that’s what crunching the numbers here seems to suggest. Since most really good things worth ichoring probably are worth upwards of 50m, this just seems like the general strategy.
new server chance is around 24% , from 10 ichor only fail one
It barley costs any RedDust but a lot of Gray. Red are supercheap now too.
Ohh weird, i had 50k+ Reds sometimes (using many too), even sold some, but often the market is full of them for 200s or something, on Klai.
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Too much excess in Tels nowadays … sadly no one buys it even though it uber cheap on market XDDD they have their own sierra supplies maybe or they dont need to farm and just direct trade with other stuff …
Oh, so more potential the easier to inchor? nice … now I need to farm either velco or varna … I’m into planiums/savinose but its kinda limited now since there’s those 150+ stats on 430 equips to ichor …
More potential = more attempts.
Naturally you’d have higher overall changes with more attempts. Too bad you can’t really choose how much potential your’e working with though.
is it better to transmute or extract vaivora ichor?
Most of them are very rare and expensive now. You gonna get two of them? 
If it RNG is evil… GoldenKits from PP or (currently cheapish) market.
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The purpose of this guide is to provide players a theory that they can use to help decide how they want to go about ichoring. Specific advice is given for particular scenarios which I believe might be common, but it is up to the reader to decide if it applies to them.
In the past sierra powder was rare. In my experience with episode 12, I drop way more sierra powder than primus/vaivora equipment so I don’t have enough things to reroll and ichor to exhaust my sierra powder supply. If you buy equipment you might need to also buy your own powder. If powder is expensive, then you might be inclined to factor in its value into your decision making process. I made a spreadsheet that includes the cost of sierra powder so that you can do this. Make a copy and adjust to fit your circumstances.
Using that spreadsheet, I also found that extraction was expected to be cheaper than other approaches under most circumstances. Again, you can adjust the numbers to suit your circumstances. The spreadsheet, like other ideas presented in this guide, is a tool to help in the decision-making process. I can assert that one method is on average cheaper, but I can’t decide for you how much weight the risk of failure has in your decisions.
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Yes.
We got months to get them. I’m getting close to it and know a bunch of ppl who have them for sometime already. Those from PP are also fully tradeable.
It would be nice if IMC would make these more easy available via normal gameplay tho.
Maybe soon*tm.