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Dragoon PvE Build - Hoplite or Cataphract?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Guys, im gonna start by saying that i havent played swordsman yet but it will be my next character (currently have an ele lvl 109), and im looking for opinions of those who have played both hoplite and cataphract

I’m thinking of going Sword > Peltasta 1/2 > Cata 3 > ??? > Dragoon or Sword > Peltasta 1/2 > Hoplite C3 > ??? > Dragoon

But i cant decide on hoplite or cataphract, what are their advantages?

PS: i ■■■■■■■ love cata just because i can pretend that i am a knight running on a peco-peco like old RO times.

#2

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#3

Depend which build you like.
I am going to Dragoon with S>P> hoplite C3>dopp>dragoon.
Because I like to see the yellow critical dmg, and the spear throw attracted me. But need to holding a spear with slow Moving.

If you play cata, it give you fast movement speed and big aoe skill to kill the mobs, but no more finestra bonus that give critical rate.

#4

What would a cata build be like tho?

I dont like the idea of being meele and slow, i’d rather have a mount then…

So, Sword > Peltasta 2 or Peltasta 1 + Hoplite > Cata C3 > Dragoon?

#5

This is currently my build:

Many say swordsmen have low dps, I don’t feel that way, at least for now, but I’m just lvl 130.
I still went for Hoplite c1 for finestra, it’s just +50 crit, but what I find more useful is that it also increases aoe radius by 3. Stabbing skill is also very powerful even if only rank 5.

#6

PvE mostly so i wouldnt get Sword c2

So that leaves me with a void rank, peltasta c2, hoplite or another?

#7

Well, since I aim for pure DPS, no off tanking, peltasta is a complete waste, weak skills that require a weapon change (I go for 2h spear), def. buff and provoke don’t add any dps :slight_smile:

#8

clearly somebody is not reading em swordsman sub forum and not know the current meta

#9

That, and for now i dont really see a swordsman being as strong dpswise as an archer or a wizard, so i want myself being useful with taunt while dishing some damage, thats my plan

Just dont know if peltasta c2 or another class

#10

Sword - Pelt/Highlander - Hop C1 - Cata C3 - Dragoon

A really good all rounder alternative to Sword - Pelt/Highlander - Hop C3 - Doppel - Dragoon. I am playing with the above build and I’m lovin it.

#11

Why hop c1?
Is finestra aoe attribute that big of a deal to not pick a bigger taunt or a higher rank class?

#12

You’ll probably never be the main tank where it matters, so taunting will only make the main tank angry. I find it useful only when the main tank dies and let’s face it, when he does, it’s very likely you’ll die even faster as you are not a fully fledged tank.

18% evasion bonus is nice, but again you are an off tank, not being attacked most of the time, but swordsman’s c2 buff restrain gives you 20% chance to stun monsters, so in aoe situations it’s way more useful, 20% procs all the time since you are using multihit attacks. What’s stunned doesn’t attack nor run away. Combine it with dmg buffs and you have a winner.

Regarding DPS, there’s literaly no evidence proving swordsman is lacking in DPS, just a bunch of folks here on the forum that yell korea this, korea that, but when you ask for proof… nothing.

And even if that’s real, there are class balance changes in every patch in every mmorpg, so what’s not perfect today might be tomorrow.

Also regarding hop c1, Stabbing is an amazing skill even on c1, finestra gives you like an equivalent of 50 dex + aoe, so that’s really good.

#13

Finestra is not just about the aoe but it’s also the backbone of any spear build for the crit chance. Also, not going Hop C1 also prevents you from taking stabbing and pierce, which again, I feel is a must have for any build using spears. Bigger taunt is not necessary unless you’re building a “tank” character because you’re not going to like it at higher levels when you taunt too much and bite off more than you can chew. Again, you can build your char anyways you want, but just my opinion.