Hello all, i was thinking on making a solo swordsman build and i like a lot the corsair but i want to know what i can chose for better soling if go to dragoon or fencer and which build i should take, because is the first time i use a swordsman
dragoon is the beast, big aoe rate from finestra splash, big damage skill
but i dunno if it can syn with corsair
fencer, it is a stand alone class on PVE, you can choose any class before it, and you can solo with it as long as you have decent amount of DEX + Shade top/pants with very very small difficulty
to simulate what a fencer actually does, get a lv 10 swordsman that has all stats into DEX. You kill things with auto attack right? well replace auto attack with composee or flanconnade, that’s pretty much fencer-like
I heard that Dragoon2 is a nice pve
and actually now i m debating which path should i take… I want to use spear and like PVE > PVP, and of course i might PVP at high lvl but not now.
But i like mounted spear class, but the pure PVE dragoon class is by foot…
So now my head almost split open…
may be sword3->cata1->corsair2->dragoon2
- sword3 for restrain
- cata1 because you want a mounted class
- corsair2 for longer iron hook + hexen droper
- dragoon2 for the kill (dethrone)
in this build every corsair skill can be used while mounted in tosbase description (except dust devil)
That’s for PVPcentric build, PVE king Goon setup is
Pelt>Hop3>Dop>Goon2
Corsair at r5 gives more pvp option to it while drops Hop3’s ThrowSpear(0cd) and 20%bonus on medium sized targets.
maybe i made corsair dragoon for this video
But king goon cant mount 
Any pros here can point out how much is the difference in dmg between
S > Pelt > Hop 3 > Dop > Goon 2 and
S > Pelt > Hop > Cata 3 > Goon 2
Cata have poor damage , believe me
Dopel outrageous DOV+ cyclone is too powerfull to skip
The crit from Hop3’s Finestra and Atk from Dopp’s DOV is just far too heavy in terms of potential damage output(PVE wise), Cata is usually taken only for PvP metas due to it’s mobility paired off with Swordsman3’s Restrain+Rush combo.
Besides once you’re Goon2, Dethrone sniping will be the bread and butter nuke of the build.
I see, guess I will need to try an eye close on mounted dragoon then.
Oh and, any recommended stat build? 4:2:1?
I’m a Sw2>Barb3>Fencer2 (going fencer3).
Level: 255
HP: 17k
STR: 136
Dex: 336 (going to improve even more with ellaganos)
Evasion: 800?
As of right now, I have a minimum crit rate of 444, and most of my physical attack stat comes from barbarian buffs (I buff while evading by jump-cancelling animation to use my time efficiently and avoid dps loss). I also don’t invest into con, because it’ll grow as I level and get better gears. I barely get hit by anything physical, and I can always boost my evasion to newer heights with lunge.
I can honestly say I don’t lose to dragoons in DMG. Fencer and Dragoons are supposably going to become the new boss-kings, but out of the two: I’m confident Fencer will remain above. Why? Well, Dragoon gets more power (mainly one new attack skill with amazing burst) and an amazing debuff on enemy that doubles phy dmg against it; while Fencer receives at least two new burst skills as well as a debuff on the enemy for more critting, and a buff to raise their own critical attack.
Between the two, they’ll work wonderfully together based on what I’m seeing. However, they both have different ways of supporting the party. Like I mentioned before; Dragoon will double the phy dmg against monsters for everyone, while Fencer will reduce the crit resist down to 0. On top of that, Fencer has the better survivability against physical bosses due to usual high dex + evasion buffs from attacks, meaning they tank a lot of needed. Here’s where I say Fencer is better in terms of DMG. Fencer will benefit more from Dragoon’s debuff on enemy than Dragoon will benefit from Fencer.
As for PvP, Barbarian c3’s Pouncing has 30% knock back and the stun rate buff (30%) helps a lot. Once my character uses it, it’s good game against the other team if they have no traps or AoE protecting them. I don’t know about what Dragoons usually pick (assuming hoplite 2 at least).
Currently, a friend of mine is Barb3>Doppel>Dragoon1. She supports my slashes with her cleave, and I support her doppel/barb slashes with my Cleave and Lunge. Once she’s Dragoon 2, our DMG output together will be high asf lol I don’t know if it’ll be higher than hop2/dragoon2 + fencer3, but it’s reassuring to know that our characters are helping each other out.
Fencer attaque coquile provide buff for dragoon, dragoon serpentine debuff boost fencer damage, fencer lunge boost all dopel slash attack
In r8 this 3 go hand in hand, if you ever in 1 party
thats a bad build for both pvp and pve,
do either hop 2 corsair 2 dragoon 2 (and peltasta and rank 2)
or hoplite 3 doppel dragoon 2
and for fencer i’d combine it with barbarian 3 or highlander 3 your choice i like barbarian better frenzy scales good.
if you ask me as a person who play dragoon i’d say that fencer looks more interesting for pve.
dragoon hoplite builds might be slightly stronger though, but i really think that fencer is a fun class to play.
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Yeah come and check the Guide to PVE Fencing thread for more details on fencer builds (though currently we’ve a bit derailed lol).
Basically Barbarian helps with damage and Highlander gives lots of utility/debuffs. If you want to add Corsair into your Fencer build, though, then Highlander is the way to go.
God many diferent opinion here, i want the faster one because of that i think than corsair will be a good idea for the double weapon unlock, but you make me think than fencer have rll nice damage with critical and that is rll interesant, but now my thinking is:
sword>pelt>hopt2>cors2>dragon2
sword>pelt>barb3>fencer3
which one use?
Why not try both? Get 2 swordsmen and train them up to rank 3. If you like Hoplite more, then go make a dragoon. If you like Barbarian more, then try Fencer. They more or less will define your playstyle going into the later ranks.
DWA is ugly AF
corsair2 best only jolly roger lvl 10 and hexen droper
and you already have so much piercing from dragoon, better take dopel1 for cyclone, this is the best swordman skill
and hoplite3 for new atribute 20% damage to medium, combine with maga spear this can destroy medium mob easily
imo, you won’t want DWA. it’s not good as it is right now. drains your stamina fast and AA is not as strong as QS’s running shot. I guess you can use it as a filler, but I would rather max JR, IH, and Hexen and all left over points to Dust Devil.