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Dpk more difficult than before?

@STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Letitia

Hi, Any new about this? drop rate on high old dpk items is just dumb now, just tell us if it gonna stay like that, like said before, dont want to spent days farming and playing so then you update easier droprate later and all my hard work become useless in 1 sec :smiley:

I thought RNG is infinitely better because people wont be able to steal your loots. You guys are hard to please.

AFAIK this drop system is exclusive for iTOS only because we want this RNG so bad.

you guys must be new here, the rumors are true. we literally arent meme’ing

every maintenance/patch is 1 step forward 2 steps back

example - every maintenance ever made previous patches be reversed/removed

this is a literal fact

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Players wanted the high drop rate RNG not this garbage low RNG that is no different from the old DPK. Is that so hard to understand?

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Well, if youre new here in TOS forums, you should know that it was changed so your hard earn farming wont be stolen by someone passing by. Majority want this changed so you should respect that, because i do.

They want the RNG change that came with HG update, not this current nerfed version we have. And Ktos have this change too.

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No no no no. Site your sources of your claim before the drop system was changed. The outcry was so evident, that prompted IMC to changed the loot system for iTOS only. People dont want someone stealing their efforts. As long as it is RNG it would be fine.

I think it’s clear from your past responses that you are just mocking everyone who wanted the change to RNG drops because you wanted to stick to DPK. And you are deliberately confusing the drop system after the HG update with the current version we have.

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i dont mind either way, because i can profit with both. If profit alone i prefer now, because it ensure i would get a lot and multiply it. I hated the changed at first because i dont know how it works, but it wasnt that bad this RNG and DPK mixture.

Lets just respect the majority who wanted this changed in the first place, who knows it would get worst again in your point of view if IMC changed again this loot system.

The problem is not exactly the system, but the drop rates. People are complaining that along with introducing this DPK+RNG system, IMC also changed either RNG rate, DPK value or both, making them harder than it was originally.

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I think it has become more difficult too, I was farming 3 or 4 orange mats in a hour, bot now only one or none at all…

The RNG is just being RNG, even i cant control it. Those people who wanted this current DPK dont care even if the % is abysmal as long as the previous system get changed. We got what the majority wanted in the first place? Its better to just adjust to it, because like i said, if IMC tweek it again who knows it would be a lot worst than we currently have.

I would rather want IMC to focus on fixing the bugs and releasing R9 ASAP. Because if IMC focus on your constant whining in drops the game wont progress fast because we are stuck changing again and again to no end.

“The RNG is just being RNG, even i cant control it.”

You’re wrong, the system is not RNG and DPK separated, but together. DPK influences on RNG rates, so yes, you can “control” it.

“Those people who wanted this current DPK dont care even if the % is abysmal as long as the previous system get changed”

You are just assuming this, dragging everyone into your opinion. If that was the case, this topic wouldn’t even exist. I was one who wanted the previous system to change, but with plausible rates/values.

“We got what the majority wanted in the first place? Its better to just adjust to it, because like i said, if IMC tweek it again who knows it would be a lot worst than currently we have.”

Being condescending with things is the best way of obtaining regression. It’s true that IMC had commuted a lot of mistakes, but we can’t just give in. Doing it right or wrong, they’re at least trying. We should keep trying too.

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Go search the forum, i hate spoon feeding people. Then come back here if you didnt find any, then ill do the research for you. If you didnt find any maybe thats the problem not the drop rate.

I’ll not feed a troll person. I was keeping track and even replying to topics regarding changes in the previous drop system. People indeed wanted the system to change but didn’t want it to be harder than it was originally.

Now if you can show me people wanting the drop rates to be lower and more difficult, please show me.

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mmmm? According to some players on KToS the drop system is bugged. Sometimes causing dpk to occur at ridiculously high counts and are requiring a bug fix, while also recommending other players if the drop takes longer than the usual drop window to appear to call it a day and move to a different drop or activity.

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So this bug is happening on iToS as well… Does IMC know this?

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This system was applied to both iToS and kToS at the same time. According to some math posts, if the previous dpk count is used as base on the formula on the increasing chance for the drop. Then the increase would be about 1.7x more mats on the same invested time hunting than previous DPK system. Which let me to belive we got some kind of “placeholder” drop system for a while, which for some reason the gms replied “We havent applied any change to the drop system” (which obviously was a lie, evidenced by the amazing rng some users had and the big gap on drop frecuency)

I choosed to not release the information about my guessed “placeholder” system, to avoid people overfarming and breaking the market once the real system arrived to us

Ok then ill feed your stupidity and laziness.

[quote="Kakorrhaphiophobia]It should be rng. IDK who the hell has the bright idea of introducing dpk in this game but whoever you are, if hell exists I hope you burn there forever while experiencing the death of billions of people who have died since the beginning of time.

Thank you.[/quote]

[quote="Tessellated]Agreed, dpk should be removed/reworked, knowing that you have to farm for 1 drop/hr+ and all your effort may be stolen is hell.
BTW i got white ribbon decoration boater recently so i know what i’m talking about :smiley:
つ ◕◕ ༽つ Rework dpk つ ◕◕ ༽つ Rework dpk つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Rework dpk
つ ◕◕ ༽つ Rework dpk つ ◕◕ ༽つ Rework dpk つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Rework dpk[/quote]

I could get more but im working now, majority dont care the rate as long as it would change into RNG.

You either are not reading my posts or just have serious reading issues. Let me quote myself in parts to help you.

That is what you keep repeating.

That is the point you keep missing.

The second quote of yours even states that “it’s hell and its really difficult”, that’s the reason the people, myself included, what this to change. If you dig around my profile you’ll see that I made a post saying that the previous system was encouraging effort stealing and that RNG inclusion would make any and every effort of dropping valuable.

But no one - absolutely no one - wanted things to turn more difficult that it ever was.

But oh well, you call me lazy and stupid, but you’re not reading my posts (either for laziness or lack of capability) and due to that your post completely misses what I’ve told you (to show me people wanting the drop rates to be lower and more difficult), thus making yourself look very stupid. I’ll just ignore you from now on, since your behavior was provocative since the beginning. Just try to understand this: YES! People did wanted the system to change, and NO! People don’t want absurd values/rates and NO! People shouldn’t just accept things because you think it is better. Thank you.

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