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Double Weapon Assault

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#1

So my corsair just got this effed up skill which I thought was a good buff atleast to make up for how swords suck a lot because it gives you dual wielding prowess yay.!, but guess what this skill is nothing but a mother effing bugged stamina draining sht I thought its stamina drain was slow enough to last till the buff expires but dude it drains so fast since swords relatively have low dmg output it also adds up to the stamina drainage by hitting the monster more and its also bugged wtf? YES it is bugged unfortunately if you use sword/dagger both weapons are considered pierce ooohh surprised? No someone already reported this in this forum too bad I was late to find it out now this skill doesnt add aspd nor gives damage it simply removes the delay of offhand weapon now I really dont understand why this sht skill which should have been not a skill but an attribute to corsairs simply because its the main attraction of the class which is to “dual wield” requires stamina when archer classes doesnt even use stamina with their aspd skills and even allows mobility hello running shot !while DWA requires you to stay in one place while mashing up two buttons, draining stamina which disables you to sprint so then why not use pills right? Yes PILLS ok so before I buy pills better do the hidden quest too for more stamina! So now I got my stamina to 56 plus pills! Time to start the button mashing fest! 56 drain-pill drain again spam skills to keep up the rotation and to let the skill and pill cooldown great rotation yes but why am I supposed to use pills when archers just spam their op aa without stamina drain and im to buy pills just to use mine efficiently? Great thats just so unfair!

K im done whining about my sword again moving on goin back to my archer… :relaxed:

Lets talk about Double Weapon Assault
#2

I feel you fellow corsair player, I was hoping back then when i didnt hit corsair c2 to get good when i hit rank 6 and get DWA but the skill is broken and almost useless to use and the only good thing about corsair c2 is the hexen and for me DWA is a big disappointment knowing you need to spam 2 buttons + stamina drain per hit srsly imc what are you thinking? And I also want to add this bug i found in the forum about the DWA ignore your main weapon, I dont know if imc fix this already.

#3

TBH I feel so pissed right now because all the effort and time spent on my corsair was all put to waste I planned my stat build and classes before playing sword it was mainly formulated to go corsair for DWA because I was an assassin before in RO but… god, I even intended to go for corsair c3 just to keep the buff active at all times and now that I got it and tested it out its so disappointing that I would have quit this game right away if it wasnt just for my archer…
you see this game is seriously against melee class I seriously have no idea what is IMC devs thinking putting stamina drain in this skill which is mainly used for auto attacks when it clearly doesnt say anything like it in its description IMO this skill should be nothing but an attribute for c2 corsairs then give us a skill which gives us aspd bonus while dual wielding and remove this stupid stamina drain… what really pisses me off is archers qs3 can auto attack 3x faster than us without having their stamina drained whilst still maintaining mobility and to top it off their skill has also an additional bonus damage of 200% at lvl 5 wtf? While our DWA only removes the delay of main and offhand attacks by mashing two buttons, keeping us in place and draining stamina real fast? right now im having second thoughts if imc devs even have the slightest idea of the definition of the word “balance”… the other three classes excel at some aspects while swords have lots of crap skills using dwa as an example and adding embowel and stomping kick these skills are trash go ask anyone here who uses those two skills or even put a point for those skills who? No one. Ez pz. Not to mention our class must have one circle sacrificed for peltasta just to meet the meta requirement zz… just give the swordsman class a skill same as swashbuck without its tanky effect and our meta struggle is over. Hey Devs we want some love pls give us some… we need them too y’know…

I just whined again…damn im becoming a whiner now so much for this stupid DWA…

… k back to my archer again…

#4

What about stamina pills like what the monks do to spamm their skill?

#5

Ya i was hyped about corsair c3 but decided against it due to dwa draining stamina.

Tbh all swordie sux not just corsair tho.

#6

TLDR right? Your monk skill clearly states that it decreases 2 stamina and thats an active skill with bonus damage and an attribute modifier to further enhance the skill which can be spammed while DWA doesnt say anything that it drains stamina plus it doesnt have damage bonus modifier and any attribute that makes it better it only removes the delay of main and offhand weapons usage and u have to mash 2 buttons while using this skill … dont worry I understand u just go on and flame/troll me I really dont mind.

#7

My suggestion: make your swordman take regular “holidays”. Take your time and “check out” others non swordman classes or if you only love swordman do the “same” all others do. The last case you can always go play another game for a while and check foruns (daily like some people do).

OBS: still hoping they move guns from corsair C3 to C2 and make a worth C3 corsair skill.

#8

Mmmh? I wasn’t trolling it was just a question because i’m thinking about making a corsair myself. Don’t think people are always here on forums to troll you ^^
Where monks are pretty OP is that they can spamm their skill with the lesser stamina pill, while maybe for playing a corsair we’d need to use the highest one :confused:

#9

Here I took the time to get them links just for you, hope you like it :wink:

Double Punch


Double Punch Enhance

Double Weapon Assault

#10

Its fine sorry if I mistaken your question im just so pissed atm so sorry.

#11

Yes yes im playing archer qs3 atm this is why I was able to compare both classes and their skills because I have both of them my sword just turned corsair c2 before the maintenance., guess I’ll just keep this toon for team level until dwa gets tweaked or eventually delete it… so disappointed and pissed atm I might have deleted this corsair but that would be too much as I’ve spent a hundred hours on this one already…

#12

welp I also angry on how DWA ended to be… specially as veteran RO player that love thief class (assassin/rogue) that had double attack passive and was amazing with double wielding

I don’t know what devs were thinking while making this skill but

a) making player to button mash C + Z like maniac
b) making each attack drain stamina

is the most stupid design ever when classes like Archer2/3 or specially Q3 gets skills that change them into machine guns and they don’t have to spam attack buttons nor their stamina isn’t drained like mad

Double Weapon Assult should be changed ASAP.

Remove stamina cost and make character automatically use dagger attack every time player press Z button (or click with mouse if using mouse mode).

At this point there is no reason to go DWA 5/5 or 9/10 when C3 Corsair… you either just put 1 point or ignore this garbage skill at all. You could even have 100 stamina and you still would drain out of it super fast and then can’t move while every Q3 would laugh in your place while kiting you and shooting 100 arrows per second in your face

#13


A.)Bugged Main hand dmg loses its dmg property
B.)makes you stay in place (melee range)
C.)Drains Stamina
D.)requires you to mash two buttons to use
F.)Simply removes mainhand and offhand usage delay. No dmg bonus no aspd bonus so good for an r6 c2 skill wowowow.


No drawbacks just pewpew

@STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_John
Guys please do me a favor, explain to me how balanced is this?

Btw we are comparing an r4 and an r6 skill here wherein one is melee and the other one is ranged.

#14

Uhh sorry for asking question

Do you know how this DWA skill now work on mouse mode??
I don’t see any information about this. (try to search and not found)

Could you please try if you have time??

#15

it doesnt work on mouse mode you have to manually press sub - main to connect them , if you use it on mouse mode and attack via left click you’re toon will basically attack using you’re main weapon and thats it.

#16

I’m a Corsair c2 with Shinobi on my swordsman, and honestly, Double Weapon Assault is great to use during times when other skills are on cooldown, it works great in combination with Priest/Chaplain buffs because those proc on both hits.

The stamina isn’t much of an issue if you run good enough gear, plate increases your stamina and theres a bunch of boots that increase your stamina too. There’s also a few hidden quests that increase your stamina. If you’re still having stamina issues buy a bunch of stamina pills from the merchants in Orsha or Klaipeda.

#17

O.o we know its great but it sucks alot compared to archer’s aspd buffs have you ever tried playing QS3? Or an archer 2/3? I suggest you try them out and observe their aspd buffs which gives aspd, dmg bonus and more attack range at the cost of a small amount of sp without stamina drain. Yes their skills dont have stamina drain whilst ours only removes the delay of using main and off hand weapon and drains 2 stamina/sec which is totally unfair for us melees…

please read the post you clearly, dont understand the point of this thread im asking/whining here for balance we are so underpowered because of minimal buff effects that we have now while other classes have 2-3 bonuses all in a single buff this is so unfair for us if they have damage and stat bonuses some even based in % which would scale up until endgame thus making their builds viable in different aspects, dont you think we should have those too? We must work this out for the devs to see that swordsman class is clearly underpowered and is in need of a full class rework unless you’ll just follow what the elitists say and build up for meta which is totally sh1t atm.

#18

Up … any news devs improving this skill ?

#19

When IMC will update like a KR Server ?

But for now it a trash skill

@STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_John

Please…do some think like a Running Shot

#20

It just got uped in korean server, so it should come to us in the next weeks :slight_smile: