Tested it just now. It sure is slower without the DoV atkspeed and the Z spam. RIP Doppel 2016-2017
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Iâve been testing and comapring with some mobs I did yesterday, and I canât see any difference. Only same damage in less time, from now. Then will compare with videos i saved.
RIP DOPPEL,Goodbye
sorry but this patch is not new so â â â â happens
Cyclone with 33% increased speed should look like this, right?
Well, I donât know if they forgot to add the 33% speed because itâs not looking like that at all, itâs the same speed as yesterday, bugged I believed atm.
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Yea the cyclone attack speed buff doesnât seem to work. Attacks feel the same as pre-patch. Anyone else can verify?
Skill only, no buffs.
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Yes, I can confirm itâs bugged, or they didnât implemented right, 33% attack speed is not working after maintenance, they only reduced the time. We need to create threads and send tickets about this, asap.
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Have you tried with Z spam?
There should not be need to z spam. They said, and I quote,
**Cyclone
- Attack speed increased by 33%.
**
And itâs not working, it has not been implemented.
For example, this is from yesterday, no buffs or anything, same conditions as today, same map, same mob, etc
Stats for the skill were these:
This is from today after maintenance, no buffs, same equipment, mob, map, etc as above,
Skill stats today,
Bottom line, they just reduced duration time, the +33% attack speed WAS NOT implemented, therefore, right now Cyclone is bugged.
I can also support this, after the update I directly went to test my barb/doppel where I saw that not only cyclone speed is ultra slow, but the barb debuffs arenât applying.
Also off-topic, but seism is now a true-multi hit, hitting up to 5 times.
(Tested on training dolls)
So what about the usage of DoV now that it doesnât affect cyclone? dov15 yay or nay?
the class itself is a nay at this point. 
Why would the class be nay when all it did was receive a buttload of buffs (well after the att speed is fixed), well without barb3 your dop will be useless obviously, but everyone knew barb3 will get the debuf increase and already took it in their builds if not completely dumb
Training doll is not a good test anymore. The new test is to check whether it always crit at the same time or not. A true multi hit calculates critical chance for each hit individually.
All true multi hits hit multiple time on dolls, and all fake hit 1 time.
So far nothing goes past this, so I donât really get why it shouldnât be a good test, and that would explain how seism can hit 5 times with wild debuff.
But yes anyway, if you need confirmation, I went to try HG with this char and landed crits and non-crits on the same cast multiple times.
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Welp, fencers spam got nerfed too. I just logged in mine and the spam is preety bad.
Just be happy guys, Cyclone didnât turn into a shitty fake multi-hit like the other Dopp skills.
Maybe the spam reduction is a server-side problemâŚ
Casting spells and auto attacking has always been a thing related to who has the best ping, so far with my fencer I did not notice any difference.
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Ditto on this, I still spam splendidly.
Can you post how you spam with yours now? Maybe itâs just me atm.