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Doppel and Monk build

Class and Rank
#1

So… I’ve been working on 2 build that I’m kind of interested in.

At first I went for the Doppel build, then seeing some stuff about the Monk made me curious about it.

I’m looking for advices on these build and see where I might have went wrong.

Monk: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7w5dw3hhgv/
Doppel: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wzqda1s6pg/

For the Monk, I’ve been wondering a lot about Rank 4. I like the idea of the paladin since it gives you one more offensive skill and some nice defense against elements and a bit of regeneration. But I know a lot of people seems to go for Priest C2 there for Sacrament and better buffs.
Also, I was not quite sure if Safety Zone was a better bet than Deprotected that can give a nice debuff once you reach Monk. I guess it depends if you want more defensive specs or offensives one.

For the Doppel, I think putting one point in Bash for the knockdown and getting Punish could be a good choice, but I didn’t choose it at the time.

Anyway, advices? :stuck_out_tongue:

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#2

My advice is don’t try to mix those two, you can’t xD :rat: :mouse2:

#3

Not sure why you’re maxing heal/cure, and getting points in fade when you’re ultimately going monk. Get heal to 5, since it heals 10% each square, and won’t matter if you don’t have INT. Cure you could get to 1 for the status cure. No reason to really max it either. Get deprotected zone 10 / safety zone 10 if anything. If you’re building STR and DEX, your autos will be fine enough for DPS until monk. Priest buffs will help your DPS a lot, so I’d suggest taking Priest at Rank 2, and maybe backtracking to Cleric at rank 3 ( if you really want to ).

I advise only getting monstrance lvl 1, it doesn’t add any more DEX or duration, and takes longer to cast the more points you put into it. I personally would go Priest C3 -> Monk C2 for all the damage buffs, or at least Priest C2, as you get more DPS out of that rank than Cleric C2.

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#4

For doppel, if you’re going barbarian / doppel, you probably want a 2 hander? If you’re going 2-handed sword, taking a rank in Highlander is a must. +50% crit damage attribute.

If you’re taking 3 ranks in swordsman, the main reason would be for restrain. So I’d make sure to at least get that to lvl 10. For barb, warcry is a pretty amazing buff, so I’d probably skip embowel and put those points into warcry ( you can save points from rank to rank of the same circle class ).

#5

Would you show us a sample build for Priest C3 -> Monk C2 ? I like some of your ideas, like only taking Monstrance Lvl 1.

#6

u need 3 points atleast for the knockdown into bash… and as someone before me stated, u pretty much need highlander for that build to be effective i’d recommend c1 sword c1 highlander c3 barb c1 doppel if u want a mount and the option to weaponswitch to 2h spears u could also drop barb down to c2 and squeeze a c1 cata in there aswell

#7

I was interested in going Doppel too, is that class any good? I can’t decide between Doppel and Corsair :frowning:

This is the build I was thinking of using, does it work, is it any good?

#8

+50% crit damage from Cartar Stroke: Collision Damage?

#9

I will look into that for both build. That is some good advices I didn’t really notice at first.

And I havn’t really explore the stats part of the build yet since I don’t even know how many points you get from a level and I’m not sure how Rank are unlocks. I think it’s 1 new Rank every 15 levels? So what does it mean once you reach lvl 90?

#10

Double handed Swords Mastery: Critical Attack
Highlander Description
Increases your critical attack by 10% when equipped with a [Two-handed Sword]. <- max lvl is 5
Passive Attribute

#11

I didn’t notice those at first… You don’t see them in the Skill simulator.

How does that work? You have to invest skill point in those? Or you have other point to put in attributes?

#12

Disregard Cure.

Acquire power with Deprotected Zone and a bit of SPR

For Barb, I would save the 4 points from Concentrate (you can actually do that if you choose the same class again later) and put it into Restrain. It can go up to a 38% stun chance then.
Which is a lot, considering that you are only sacrificing about half of the HP worth 1 CON per skill level.

#13

those are passive attributes u learn at your class npc, some are instant learned, some have a timer with “next level takes 30minutes” u just buy them for ingame cash… they r listed on the site as attributes not in the skill simulator directly also if u mouseover the little picture below bash, u can see that the knockdown only accures if bash is atleast lvl 3 :wink:

#14

Does this makes more sense for the Doppel?

I still go C2 swordsman because I really like the idea of restrain, but I was not sure if I should put the 5 points left in Concentration or just get Pommel Beat. I feel like taking concentrate leave me only with a lvl 4 bash until Rank 3.

I have to say that C3 Bard is kind of nice too… But I guess I would have to choose between having C2 swordsman for Restrain or having C3 Barb.

Damn, so many possibilitiiieeesss loll

Oh and thanks for the infos about the attributes

#15

u could run it like that yes, i’m not a fan of restrain tho, 120sec cooldown only 45sec uptime also only a 20% chance of stunning randomly… helm chopper is a controlled stun that u can use whenever u need it at the right moment, no chances no nothing… c3 barb buffs your damage by A LOT, getting frenzy and warcry up to lvl 10 instead of lvl 5 is HUGE … but thats just me, i rly dislike c2 swordsman by all means… atleast for a 2handed dps build

#16

I think :

Swordsman > Highlander > Barbarian > Barbarian > Barbarian > Doppel
Need circle 3 in Barbarian, so op !

#17

Hum… yeah I didn’t do the math about the up time for Restrain. I don’t know why, I just always think of it as some kind of passive.

And I didn’t know very well about helm chopper, I just notice they finally translate it in the skill builder loll.

I think that clearly push the balance towards C3 Barb over C2 Swordsman I agree.

Thanks for the good advices :smile:

#18

but skills build and stats build ? D: only str ? i dont know ? D: