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Dont you think this is unfair? RMT vs Automatic Classes?

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#1

I know the game allows you to do that, this is not the problem here, but:
Don’t you think that is unfair that there was so many errors, patchs, bugs, mistakes, all to fight RMT (Gold sellers), not to mention the accounts banned, and then, when you walk around Tenet Crurch you will find:
Sorceres and Necromancers and others classes, that can summon monsters and just press one or two buttons and then win thousands, or even millions of silver each day, being almost afk, while you with your cleric, swordsman, archer, or even magic without summon, have to think: Do I accept it and forget about equipment for the rest of the game or do I join and make a sorcerer too, so win those who have more time to be there afk letting the monster farm silver???

If the objective of combate RMT is to combate Hyper-inflation of the prices in the game, since players that have money will just buy from another player the silver instead lose hours killings mobs, how this can be fair to those players as well??

Some players are already monstrous rich by doing that everyday, so my guess is that the economy its already at hiper-inflated state for those who dont do that, and for those who are rich this way, can be normal.

IMC, if you dont want RMT to work, at least make something to appear more fair, maybe you can sell directly silver for TP, for a fair price, but the way it is, really Discourages those who aren’t summoners or dont have time to make two characters.
That is what is fun. Those who dont have time are generally the ones who have more money, because they work, study and do real things on real life to have some structure, so, when you go play, you have to compete with this players that can be simple almost afk. That is not the way you win real money for the game.

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#2

i support imc start selling silver.

but isnt gacha have a silver lotery box already?

huehuehue

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#3

JUST DO IT ALREADY xD

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#4

IMC dont care on this issues, in the end of the day all they care is $$$.

#5

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#6

You sure can beat any F2P player with all the cute costumes at your disposal :rolling_eyes:

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#8

huehuehue ~

thank you for supporting IMC, more $$$ to IMC, love your cash cows and whales.

#9

trade cute costume for shards :slight_smile:

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#10

@ralphdeduyo @haukinyau1

Don’t worry, since any of you 2 had the intellect to give a solution for this problem (afk summoners farmers of silver), I will just make Sorcerer too and be afk the most time I can.
Thank you for making the game better.
If you all don`t have wisards, every time you think about farm silver, remember that someone afk is doing the same job with a better amount of silver than you with your effort.

Specially @ralphdeduyo, you had shown me that money for something in the game is completely unfair, that combating this will solve the game problems, and that other games who do that are useless games.
Because, the game is sky-rocketing, the last months players just entered the game so much, that Rank Reset is nothing, the game was already saved. Oh wait, Rank Reset saved this game, yes, all the issues was already corrected, players had come back and will stay here for months!! The player base is saved, and those who go to RMT are no one, why care? If those people who bought silver from RMT had bought from IMC, this could ruined the game.
ToS is :rocket:, completely saved.

@MayMay thanks for the tip. Yes Token was the main item used to do that, but I don’t wanted to buy silver itself, I wanted to knew the opinion of people, because I feel completely useless when I start to kill mobs for some silver sometimes just to complete some item, and cross with a Summon class where the Player is complete stopped for minutes and minutes, only pressing one button to continue all over again, I lose the energy I had to play. Farm silver killing one by one is just the worst possible way to make silver in this game, because even with lots of efforts, you still will be behind of someone pressing ALT+TAB and some buttons of skills. I don’t want they to be punished, because is the game itself who allow them to do that, what I wanted was show that there is no fair play, even beating RMT, the game itself help make it worst, what you can do is if you can’t beat 'em, join 'them, I will probably do a Sorcerer too (or other summoner class), even if I wanted to focus on my main character on the time I have. But yes, trade some cash items can solve the problem of time.

#11

Blame IMC for rank 8 maps give the same amount of silver as lv100 maps

Active high-level player will always make more silver than any AFK

All classes can AFK with your pet, just need to invest in them

#12

This is correct

It’s nothing like that.
Noone can beat macroing memewarlock at farming silver. And farming with pets is a joke (compared to necro’s summons)

#13

But everyone can do

necro without summons is… bad CTRL+C CTRL+V of elememe (flesh strike)

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#14

wow

choosing your own response as solution

gotta respect u for that, salute! huehuehue~

dont get me wrong, lets put it this way…

afk-farm classes is indeed broken/op, but this game is the braindchilds of imc. In other words, they design it to be like this.

Dont bash me yet, althought, many times, user feedback allows creator to further tweak the design for better public acceptence, well, i just wont be the one waiting for the day its fixed.
Hence, i call Tos a dead game with dead plan/design/implementation. I do agree it has potential though…

Back to afk-farm issue, well, imc can simply remove all monster droping silver… and make all rubish drop 1silver value. Material for crafting will still retain their value~ Player will decide that value ~

How to gain silver u ask? Tada, IMC can sell silver using TP, also, make Dungeon silver 100% on solo clear, additional 50% silver for each party member from queue.

i know my suggestion is not perfect, but theres alot of things imc can do to fix this, and yes, it can be fixed.

like i said, they do not deserve asking player to wait them to fix their own shitty game, atleast i dont think they deserve my time.

still, people often ask, if i haukinyau already quit, and say tos/imc dont deserve my time, then why da faq am i still posting in forum?

because i can. and its not illegal. also, i have been saying only the painful truth.

so, tldr… cant beat them, join em. its just a game, why so serious.

huehuehue

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#15

What I find unfair is the supposed reasoning behind the changes.

It sounds very hypocritical and intentional

Before you had to wait 2 hours to retrieve your silver so they could “control” RMT.

They also removed early access package of 9.99 to “control RMT”

But now RMT peeps can get a token from the novice pack and use it whenever and “we’re holding on to your suspicious silver” is only an incentive to pay real money for a token.

Honestly, the only system that makes a little sense to me, but hen falls flat on it’s face is giving TP to winning guilds, which would suggest that people who play the game, therefore help keeping it competitive an interesting, are those who spends lots of hours online and working on characters.
Ha.ha.ha!

#16

Yeah, if you cant beat them, join them!

huehuehue

#17

So you think it’s a good idea to inflate an already inflated economy even more by offering legal free silver generation for real money?
Do you realize that this would only result in an even higher inflation rate, because, compared to currently illegal RMT where only “few” people do it, if it became legal even more free silver would be generated?

At least when buying Tokens and selling them on the market no silver is generated but you get the silver from another player, so while you do get silver for your money by selling the tokens it won’t contribute to inflation.

My suggestion would be to make more items of the TP shop sellable in the auction house, like the skill reset potion, so people can use more TP items to put them in the auction house.

That being said : I think IMC really needs to do something against afk silver farming.

#18

No, in the end you dont care, most of people dont care. Nothing will be done. I dont care anymore either, lets enjoy the spirit of afk farming, you people like it. For real, let it continue. Good luck with the game^^

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#19

Obvously i care, otherwise i wouldn’t have answered to this topic and posted my opinion on your ideas.

Obviously some others care, otherwise no one else would’ve written any non-spammy non-attentionwhoring contribution to this discussion.

Obviously you do care, otherwise you wouldn’t have made this elaborate first post in this topic, in addition you added a question in the title where you ask for peoples opinion : “Dont you think this is unfair?”.

:slight_smile: