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Don't s feint still work with barrage?

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Just checking if feint still works with barrage I would like a current video on itos if available or if you have an current info on any new skills that work with feint that’d be great. Especially before I change my build to go rogue circle 1

Edit-nvm someone else already has a post up about it thanks.

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#3

It doubles barrages damage.

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#5

Wait sorry what i really meant was it doubles the numbers of hits barrage makes, so from 5hits to 10.

#6

Does anyone have a video of this in iToS?

#7

learn to read other threads, this issue is circulating around this archer forum.

that is why:

Any here it is c/o @FLoki

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#8

The barrage and feint combo seems really … random. I wouldn’t be surprised if IMC ninja’d a removal of the combo for iTOS.

#9

DIDN’T WE JUST TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE THREAD THAT YOU RAGED? about your beloved spiral arrow?

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#11

HAHAHA here we go again. now let me ask you, what did you get after destroying those people with your “4.8m spiral arrow” ? pride? joy? you got this illusion that you are stronger XD.

and no, barrage is way more effective in boss battle, non multiple target as well as any other type of dungeon, 3 charges, AOE, pair extremely perfect with linker you seem to be confused on how barrage work, it doesn’t NEED multiple enemies but it can destroy multiple enemies also it works with feint does spiral works with anything at all?. i’m so sad that you have wasted so much money on that just to get mediocre damage but well at least you won on pvp (and you gain nothing by the way).

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#15

huh.

No.

Steady aim is already nerfed on ranger. ( only in OUR VERSION - ITOS, on KTOS it was not nerfed)

This sysnergy on topic only work with 2 skills from 2 diferent archer ranks.

Feint have 25s CD, barrage around 17 ~18 CD, from my experience you can do it at 20s CD (downtime). Rogue C1 only got ONE dps skill (vendetta), and its pretty bad anyway. They did a good upgrade on Barrage damage, at the same time they gived hidden synergys to lots of archers ranks (timed arrow bomb, heavy shot, full draw, etc, they all have extra stuff that is not show on this skills descriptions in game, or in any database, AKA HIDDEN BONUS OR SYNERGYS)

Capture have one of the worst CDs in the game, 3 MIN.

SO… yeah, you got sneak hit that forces you to move from behind an enemy (loosing dps while you move) just to gain the flat bonus critical chance, and even so, the enemy critical resist lower the sneak hit extra critical ( I tested it in game on boss and monster alike)…Rogue C1 is fine, C2 is average, C3 sux.

I cant see it as OP or as not intended, as it was reported before on KTOS CB and on ITOS CB, and at the same time DEVS gives more power to lots of archers ranks, as they are underpowered.

Fletcher, for ex, got sp reduction cost on all skills.

You can see the list of changes here:

[Archer]
[20/12/2015]
- ‘Missile’ attack damage has been increased vs. Large monsters
- ‘Full Draw’ and ‘Heavy Shot’ damage has been increased.
- Cooldown of ‘Twin Shot’ has been reduced to 20 seconds from 30 seconds.
[28/12/2015]
- Swift Step now applies effects to party members aswell. Evasion increase has also been added to the skill.
- Missile attacks on the enemy reduces physical defense by up to 50%
[23/12/2015]
Damage has been increase for the following skills:
- Multi-Shot
- Heavy Shot
- Twin Arrows
The following Skills have had the SP Consumption reduced:
- Multi-Shot
- Full Draw
- Heavy Shot
- Twin Arrow
- Kneeling Shot
- Swift Step
- Oblique Shot

[28/01/2016]
    - Twin Arrow Skill has been changed and now has an Overheat of 5, The cooldown has also been reduced from 20s to 7s.   
[25/02/2016]
    - Swift Step:The skill has changed so that only the caster receives the effects of swift step.
    - [Swift Step: Include Party Members] Attribute has been added.
    - Twin Arrow: Stamina will no longer decrease during the skills use.

[Ranger]
[23/12/2015]
Damage has been increase for the following skills:
- Full Draw
- High Anchoring
- Time Bomb
- Bounce Shot
- Barrage
[07/01/2016]
- Ranger: Critical Shot sp cost decreased from 18 and +3.2 per level to 15 and +2.5 per level.
[28/01/2016]
- High Anchoring Skill cooldown is reduced from 20s to 15s.
- Critical Shot Skill damage increased from 101.5 + 20 per skill level to 131.5 + 29.2 per skill level.
- Time-Bomb Skill cooldown is reduced from 43s to 10s.
- Barrage now can be used up to 3 times before cooldown applies.
- Steady Aim Skill has been revamped and now does the following:
- Steady Aim cooldown changed from 65s to 25s
- Increases skill damage by 3% per skill level.
- Decreases SP cost of skills by 10% + 1% per skill level.
- Lasts for 10s + 1s per skill level.
- Attribute - High Anchoring: Critical Chance (Circle 1) Has been added.

[Quarrel Shooter]
[23/12/2015]
Damage has been increase for the following skills:
- Throw Caltrops
- Stone Shot
- Rapid Fire
- Running Shot
Running shot now gives more attack speed alongside the damage bonus noted earlier.
Monsters have been adjusted to attack the Deployed Pavise first.
[07/01/2016]
- Quarrel Shooter : Deploy Pavise now has a chance to apply bleeding to the enemy.
- A chance to bleed attribute will be added.
[28/01/2016]
- Running shot is now available for all weapon stances.
- Attribute - Rapid Fire: Critical Chance (Circle 1) Has been added.

[Sapper]
[14/01/2016]
- Punji Stake: Splash damage range will be increased.
[28/01/2016]
- Attribute - Claymore: Aerial-Type (Circle 1) Has been added.
- Attribute - Detonate Trap: Aerial-Type (Circle 1) Has been added.
[18/02/2016]
- Collar Bomb
: Resistance rate of Collar Bomb has been reduced.
: Cooldown Reduced.
- Broom Trap: Cooldown Reduced.
- Detonate Trap: Cooldown Reduced.

[Hunter]
[14/01/2016]
- Hunter’s Growling Effect affecting bosses has been corrected and is no longer possible.
[28/01/2016]
- Coursing Skill will now render the target unable to move.
- Coursing, Retrieve Skills during their use, the companion will constantly ‘bite’ the target dealing some damage.
- Snatching Skill will now cause also cause a bleeding effect to the target.
- Coursing Now deals 132.2 + 30.2 Damage per skill level.
- Snatching now deals 143.5 + 32 Damage per skill level.
- Retrieve now deals 209.6 + 65.2 Damage per skill level.
- Rush Dog Skill damage has been increased from 100% attack and 343.56 + 57.24 damage per skill level to 150% attack and 453.56 + 89.24 per skill level.
- Attribute - Coursing: Enhance (Circle 1) Has been added.
- Attribute - Snatching: Enhance (Circle 1) Has been added.
- Attribute - Rush Dog: Enhance (Circle 1) Has been added.
- Attribute - Retrieve: Enhance (Circle 2) Has been added.
- Rush Dog, Snatching, Retrieve Skills will be changed to activate relative to the characters direction.

[Wugushi]
[14/01/2016]
- Wugushi - Bewitch skill being able to confuse bosses has been modified to no longer be possible.
28/01/2016
- Needle Blow Skill damage increased from 194.2 + 40.9 per skill level to 254.2 + 56.9 per skill level.
- Needle Blow cooldown Reduced from 25s to 20s.
- Needle Blow poison damage frequency changed from 0.8s to 0.5s.
- Wugong Gu Skill will be affected by physical damage, Damage Increased from 252.8 + 73.9 per skill level to 302.8 + 88.9 per skill level.
- Needle Blow, Wugong Gu Skills poison duration has been reduced.
- Wugong Gu cooldown reduced from 30s to 25s.
- Wugong Gu Skill will be changed so that the poison-over-time damage is the same as the initial tick of other poison damage skills.
- Throw Gu Pot damage changed from 204.2 + 41.8 per skill level to 414.2 + 91.8 per skill level.
- Throw Gu Pot Skill hitbox increased.
- Throw Gu Pot Skill has been changed to a Throwing Skill.
- Jincan Gu damage changed from 393.7 + 85.1 per skill level to 593.7 + 145.1 per skill level.
[04/02/2016]
- A change has been made so that it’s no longer possible to resist Wugushi’s Poisoning effects.
- Wugong Gu: Enhance attribute not applying increased damage on the poison has been fixed.

[18/02/2016]
    - Poison Pot:You can now un-equip an equipped card in the poison pot with right-click

[Scout]
[07/01/2016]
- Scout: Hitbox of Flare shot has been increased slightly.
- Scout: Perspective distortion skill effect is now based on the skill level used.
[28/01/2016]
- Flare Shot Skill damage will be increased from 90% attack and 0 damage to 90% attack and 152.1 + 34 per skill level.

[Rogue]
- Note: For a list of Capturable skills - Please See : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KiYi8LmhljhvByqzeAh2NhMWN9EFFmsi--WN2z5kwe8/edit#gid=0

[07/01/2016]
    - Rogue: Vendetta cooldown decreased from 40s to 30s.
[28/01/2016]
    - Capture Skill cooldown has been reduced from 5 minutes to 3 minutes.
[24/03/2016]
    - Capture Skill will no longer be able to steal [Spike Shooter] and [Tet Mamak La]

[Fletcher]
[07/01/2016]
- Broadhead Arrow sp cost decreased from 35 and +5.3 per level to 28 and +4.7 per level.
- Bodkin Point sp cost decreased from 37 sp and +5.6 per level to 31 and +4.9 per level.
- Barbed Arrow sp cost decreased from 37 sp and +5.6 per level to 31 and +4.9 per level.
- Crossfire sp cost decreased from 40 sp and +5.8 per level to 33 and +5.2 per level.
- Magic Arrow sp cost decreased from 42sp and +6 per level to 35 and +5.3 per level.
- Singijeon sp cost decreased from 42sp and +6 per level to 35 and +5.3 per level.

[21/01/2016]
    - Fletchers will be allowed to use Crossbows with their skills.
    - Small Arrows Deal Additional damage to enemies under the Corruption debuff.
[28/01/2016]
    - All skills Have had SP Costs Reduced, Skill damage has also been increased.
    - Broadhead Arrow SP Consumption Reduced from 28 + 4.7 per skill level to 22 + 4 per skill level.
    - Broadhead damage changed from 364.2 + 96.8 per skill level to 470.2 + 113.8 per skill level.
    - Bodkin Point sp cost changed from 31 + 4.9 per skill level to 25 + 4.2 per skill level.
    - Bodkin Point damage changed from 434.2 + 99.8 per skill level to 564.2 + 121.8 per skill level.
    - Barbed Arrow sp cost changed from 31 + 4.9 per skill level to 25 + 4.2 per skill level.
    - Barbed Arrow damage changed from 434.2 + 112.8 per skill level to 582.2 + 119.8 per skill level.
    - Crossfire sp cost changed from 33 + 5.2 per skill level to 27.5 + 4.5 per skill level.
    - Crossfire damage changed from 324.2 + 91.8 per skill level to 474.2 + 111.8 per skill level.
    - Magic Arrow sp cost changed from 35 + 5.3 per skill level to 30 + 4.6 per skill level.
    - Magic Arrow damage changed from 100% attack and 0 damage to 100% attack and 320 + 91 per skill level.
    - Singijeon sp cost changed from 37 + 5.7 per skill level to 0 + 5 per skill level.
    - Singijeon damage changed from 100% attack and 795 + 213 per skill level to 200% attack and 1395 + 314 per skill level.
    - CrossFire Skill hitbox has increased.

[25/02/2016]
    - Bodkin Point: The Skill level effects not being applied has been corrected
    - CrossFire: [CrossFire: Burn] The cooldown timer increase that applied when the Attribute was active has been removed.
    - Magic Arrow: [Magic Arrow: Silence] The cooldown timer in this Attribute has been changed to 9 seconds.

[18/02/2016]
    BroadHead:
      : Bleeding damage will  take into account the bonus damage attribute of this skill.
      : The timer for Bleeding effects being applied will be faster than normal.
      : Default duration of Bleeding [5s + SkillLevel * 1s] From  [5s + Skill LVL *0.5s ]
      : Cooldown changed to 10 seconds.
      : Skill Tool-tip will be changed.

[Falconer]
[21/01/2016]
- Hanging shot now allows the user to use the Quarrel Shooter ‘Running Shot’ skill whilst flying.
- ‘Call: Obtain’ attribute has been modified so that potions obtained via this skill have a resale value of 0.
[18/02/2016]
- Hanging Shot; If you swap weapon whilst you are under the hanging shot effect, the skill effect will immediately cancel.
: When swapping to a Musket weapon, Hanging shot will immediately cancel.
- During Hanging shot you will not be allowed swap to a musket weapon.
: For 2-Handed bows with Hanging Shot, Changing to 1-Handed Bow is still possible.
[21/04/2016]
Blistering Thrash:
- 30% Chance to afflict the enemy with [Blind] when attacking.

[Schwarzreiter]
25/02/2016
- Concentrated Fire: maximum hit counter has been changed to deal [2 + SKILL LVL]hits.

[Canoneer]
[28/12/2015]
- Attribute - Shootdown : Crash Monsters will now take additional damage from cannon skills whilst the they are on the ground.

[21/01/2016]
    - Cannoneer's Skill damage has been increase & Cooldowns reduced.

[28/01/2016]
    - All skills after-cast delay is reduced. Skill damage has also been increased.
    - Cannon Shot cooldown changed from 10s to 5s
    - Cannon Shot damage changed from 100% attack and 1447 + 363.43 per skill level to 150% attack and 1847 + 363.43 per skill leve l.
    - Shoot Down cooldown changed from 10s to 5s.
    - Shoot Down damage changed from 100% attack and 1553 + 390.37 per skill level to 150% attack and 1853 + 390.37 per skill level.
    - Siege Burst damage changed from 100% attack and 1859.36 + 359.12 per skill level to 150% attack and 2159.36 + 359.12 per skill level.
    - Cannon Blast damage changed from 100% attack and 2232 + 450.38 per skill level to 300% attack and 2832 + 470.38 per skill level.
    - Cannoneer Damage will increase even further based upon ATK of the Cannon.

[Musketeer]
[21/01/2016]
- Musketeer’s Headshot, Snipe, Covering fire damage has been increased.
- Musketeer’s covering fire will be changed to deal 2 hits per step.

[28/01/2016]
    - Damage of All skills will be increased.
    - Covering Fire damage changed from 100% attack and 230 + 38.32 per skill level to 150% attack and 430 + 108.32 per skill leve  l.
    - Head Shot damage changed from 150% attack and 1629 + 401.23 per skill level to 300% attack and 2229 + 431.23 per skill level.
    - Snipe damage changed from 200% attack and 2293 + 601.2 per skill level to 400% attack and 3193 + 701.2 per skill level.
    - Penetration Shot damage changed from 100% attack and 789 + 200.13 per skill level to 150% attack and 1189 + 200.13 per skill  level.
    - Butt Stroke damage changed from 781 + 213.23 per skill level to 881 + 213.23 per skill level.
    - Bayonet Thrust damage changed from 894.1 + 245.9 per skill level to 994.1 + 245.9 per skill level.
    - Attribute - Headshot: Stun (Circle 1) has been added.
    - Attribute - Snipe: Stun (Circle 1) has been added.
[03/03/2016]
    - 'Snipe' skill having an unusually large hit box has been fixed.

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#16

All I said was I felt the addition of the combo was pretty random coming from a skill that decreases evasion. I never said it was bad, OP, or needd to be nerfed. Lol. :confused:

#17

Wow I didn’t think this thread would blow up like it did so bottom line from the original poster.

Is rouge circle 1 better than Archer circle 2 in my build?? (Pve)

Archer>ranger3>archer2>Falconer>cannoneer.

Please I need a definitive answer here.