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Does a Hop3-Dop-Dragoon need a Brandish?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

I was very lucky to get a Brandish recipe when I was questing in Royal Mausoleum. I have been saving silver for the materials since and got my hand on it when I reached lv170.

However, I am nearly lv227 and will become a Dragoon soon. I will need a catacombs pike to make use of Dragoon’s attribute. But then “what does brandish gonna to for me once I got catacombs pike?” I thought.

I did some research and I found out that if it is not for the Dragoon’s attribute, brandish + dagger is definitely better than catacombs pike. Since I am going to become a dragoon, I take this to mean that brandish will not shine anymore when I got catacombs pike. I should either sell it or put it into the storage for future alts. Am I correct about this?

#2

what server are u? it depends if youre in varena give me the recipe and you buy some catacombs pike

#3

Use your Brandish Spear to hunt large mobs like Honeymeli. lol

But yes, I agree with you that if you want to get high DPS on bosses, use two-handed spear so you get the +10% damage from Big Game Hunter attribute. And then just weapon swap to Brandish + Shield (you have Peltasta, right?) when you grind or do merc missions.

#4

lol. Welp, I’m asking if Brandish got any uses or not. Not that I am going to sell it. Besides, I am not in varena…

#5

Brandish is usefull if you are Hop3 or anything other then dragoon that can use spears. If I were you. I would either sell it, or made another character to benefit from it… like sw2-hop2-corsair2-shinobi or something of sorts. since for them brandish will be the best bossing weapon.

Also Two Handed spear does more damage to large monsters then brandish on dragoon due to big game hunter.

so there is that.

Maga Spear is your best bet to use agains medium sized monsters/pvp though.
As of right now, the best combination of weapons would be:

  1. Two Handed spear (Cripple > Cata Pike > Supperior Demon Pike)
  2. Maga Spear + Sheild (aias or didel tower)
#6

Thanks for the input :slight_smile:

But I believe “Big Game Hunter” also works on large mobs like Honeymeli right? So it should be easier to farm large mobs with catacombs pike than with brandish + dagger, I think.

For grinding, I plan to get a maga spear. I have already farmed all the materials. Now I just need to got lucky with my dungeon runs or spot it on the market with a sweat price.

In that case, doing merc missions seems to be brandish’s only use then. Even though I chose swordsman2 route rather than peltasta1, a shield on my right hand will always help since I need to directly taking damages in order to cast the attacking skills, and clerics are not always around during merc missions.

#7

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Just got two questions:

  1. You mean “maga spear” right? coz magas pike is a two-handed spear.

  2. How is cripple better than catacombs pike? 20 STR from cripple only adds 20 damages, catacombs pike on the other hand got extra 188 damages when dealing with large monsters, which also include bosses. Is my calculation right?

#8

Two-handed melee weapons have a hidden +10% damage bonus that generally puts them ahead of 1H.

I prefer Maga Spear to Brandish since a large majority of mobs are medium sized, in fact[quote=“cnatomos, post:3, topic:323811”]
Use your Brandish Spear to hunt large mobs like Honeymeli. lol
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even Honeymelis are medium sized. Only the really big mobs like Glizardons, Galoks, Harugals, etc. count as large.

#9
  1. you are right ( i have edited the post XD, thanks )
  2. I did think there was PvP involved for some reason, in case of no pvp Cripple is a waste
#10

cripple is the best.

#11

I like Brandish for some types of PvE content. It’s not very good against a few high HP mobs, but its AoE makes it really nice for big mobs of small monsters, it can pay itself in a few hours of bee farming. Also, I still believe it’s the best option for 1h spear in PvP.

For bossing and general PvE content, with your build, a nice 2h sword would probably be the best option.

#12

You mean for pvp? coz judging from the data on TOS Fan Base, it doesn’t seem to be better than catacombs pike. Or maybe it got some hidden factors that not many people knew?

#13

The aoe attack ratio on Brandish is only one point higher than either Catacombs Pike or Maga Spear. I wonder if that really make a difference when farming large amount of mobs. Guess I should test it out in Dina Bee Farm when I got Maga Spear.

As for pvp, although I do love to experience different aspect of the game, without the CCs from swordsman3 and the mobility from Cataphract3, my build just suffers in pvp. After several matches,I kind of believe that no matter what I do in the arena, it won’t affect the the outcome :sob:

But yeah, I guess that’s another reason for me to keep Brandish, just that carrying 3 main weapons (Brandish, Catacombs Pike and Maga Spear) is kind of annoying, especially when switching weapon from quick slot sometimes bugged out for me…

#14

Really? Honeymelis doesn’t count as large mob? Never noticed that…guess I really should install the addon which shows monsters’ data lol. Thanks a lot for the reminder!

#15

Iron Hook. Go cata or go corsair.

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#16

You don’t wanna bee farm without swash buckling bro… it makes a ton of difference. You can wipe both bee camps before they fully respawn, but without swash you’d be killing what? 5? 6 at a time is your highest possible average without SB. EW shines here though, i don’t know if your goon attacks will clear as many.

#17

imo its better than catacombs pike because it has 501 base damage (481 +20 str) and cata pike has 412 base damage, now if you REALLY like the 23 crit rate then you can get cata pike but i still like cripple better
i’ve been trying to get cripple for weeks now. Great weapon imo.
As a hop 3 dragoon ur stats should be leaning more towards str since its pve,
both cata pike and cripple are great, if i had to choose between the 2 i’d go with cripple but catacombs pike is a great weapon too.
Now listen if you do get ur hand at a cripple, cripple’s cost is very high, selling it might be a good idea because realistically you’ll have more damage if you sell cripple for 20m and then use the 20m to +15 your cata pike. Even though cripple’s base damage is higher.

#18

I’m reading on ToS base that you get Cripple from Mirtis Cube,but looking up Mirtis doesn’t seem to tell you where you encounter her.Where do you find her?

#19

Kalejimas Visiting Room. I believe she can spawn on any of the lower floors as well (Storage, etc.)

#20

Oh thank you Sly! I was down there just yesterday trying to complete all the maps thinking each one would get me cards,but I was wrong…