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Do you want the P2W to end? It's easy to force IMC's hand

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#1

Stop spending TP on non-cosmetic boxes. Just stop. Speak by closing your wallets.

I know what you’re thinking - “butbutbut then other people will have better stuff than meeeee”. So?
This isn’t classic Ragnarok Online. Gear doesn’t last. Your Velcoffer will in the bargain bin on market when the next level cap raise comes and the new Primus stuff invariably comes with it.

And what are you going to do with the temporary 10-20% increase in character power that comes with the now-nerfed anvil-enhancement effects that you paid so much USD to finance? Get this advantage blasted to +0 when one of the countless Appraisers running around gestures disapprovingly at you with their whaling harpoon? (I’m one of these people and the effect is amazing. 70% chance of cancelling thousands of dollars spent. And did you know it’s an easy to use AOE?)

Think what value you’re actually getting for your money. ToS isn’t even pay to win. It’s pay to ???. You pay to upgrade items you don’t need because the top tier pve content is easily cleared in casual gear, and is on a lockout so your speed advantage doesn’t translate to more gained per week. In PVP the gear advantage is either normalized (TBL - and more equality on the way, according to IMC!) or can simply be deactivated by a competent player/party. And after all that you’re just paying again when the next wave of content rolls around.

Talk about stupid. Think about all this the next time you whip out your credit card. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but maybe dresses and wings are a better investment in the long term?

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#2

Honestly I used to be super-pissed about Leticia’s cubes but lately I have stopped caring.

The low rank prizes are actually useful, such as attribute points. I have never opened a set of leti cubes and felt robbed, because I can use everything that comes out of them.

Goddess Cubes, on the other hand, are a scam. There are too many random headgears and the chance for wings or other rare drops from that cube are ridiculously low. The exchange shop isn’t updated enough and 30 TP per cube is way too high.

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#3

No just stop spending TP :prince:.

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#4

Like the points I made in the RMT announcement, the issue is not about not spending on cubes.

The issue is that there is NOTHING ELSE besides cubes.

As for value i’m getting for my money? Time. Time is worth my money. I don’t even care about ‘winning’ or whatever the hell you think is ‘winning’.

I want convenience.

PS. This post coming from someone who’s a self proclaimed ‘i didn’t spend anything’ player like you isn’t helping your legitimacy in any argument, or point.

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#5

As you said, lets use lv1 weapon and armor until ToS is dead

#6

You want convenience, that’s what Leticia’s cubes give you. Plenty of items to help you level more quickly and advance alts very quickly in a game that encourages trying different builds.

I really wonder how you and the other “time is money” idiots live. You’re so worried about the amount of time you spend inefficiently in a videogame that you think you need to pour money into it to even compete. All you have to do is be less stupid about how you are spending your time, and your in-game money. It’s not hard.

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#7

Let me just put it this way.

To someone making 100 dollars a year, 1% of their income is 1 dollar.

To someone making 100,000 dollars a year, 1% of their income is 1,000 dollars.

For someone without money, the amount we spend may seem excessive.

To us? It is just a small, tiny % of what we actually spend in reality.

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#8

Uh, 10-15 is fine, and easily doable with no p2w.

#9

idc people have +40 weaps, but they can’t use that on a pvp it’s unfair
so w/e let them buy gachas and pay the server, just don’t break the game with bad updates/bugs

#10

Don’t make fun of poor people.

#11

:sad:

But but…

/20chars

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#12

as long as whale pay on IMC im fine, it will help server lifetime ‘3’
but if whale pay on seagm, etc, it not helping at all

#13

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