Tree of Savior Forum

Do you reallly need krivis for full support?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

DO you? Because I find the class complete trash other than daino (I use a auto attack build with cafrisun+sacriment+arde dagger) so I don’t need the attack spell. How really nesscary is it? because I’d rather get something like chaplain instead this way I quad hit with auto attacks, not to mention it turns excorsim into a much better nuke. I just hate the idea of wasting a class rank for 1 spell that IMO should not even exist, the buff limit is a stupid concept imo.

Also is Aspersion worth bothering with if I don’t get chaplain? I mean defense numbers in this game are not very high, and taking like 50 less dmg at lv 100 is not going to make much of a diff, I never see priests using this in a party.

How many buffs can a token user have?

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#2

Token now increase buff count limit if you needed it for yoursef also qhen you reach rank 5 there’s an attribute to increase buff count as well, with this krivis is not totally necessary anymore.

The game itself created some restrictions and classes that would overcome them.

Edit: personally i like the rank 5 attribute, but token giving it just make the class “useless”, making priest a better choice

#3

Nope, can just use daino scrolls in pve if daino is needed.
For pvp it’s better, but still hardly a must have.

Aspersion is only worth it if you stack defense like crazy, which currently seems to require luck and a alchemist. (Item awakening.)
And even then it’s not very good.

archers/wizards have 5 buff limit base, +1 from attribute, +1 from token.
clerics/swordsmen have 7 buff limit base, +1 from attribute, +1 from token.

#4

so 7 for archer/wiz 9 total for cleric/swordie?

#5

yep.

[this 20 char and spam protection is getting annoying.]

#6

“it turns useless skill into another useless skill”.

Aspersion’s damage will scale Chaplain’s Aspergillium (or rather aspergillium applies aprersion’s sprinkle on every auto attack), so you get 5th (massive)hit on your autoattack: normal hit + cafrisun + sacrament + last rites + aspergillium.

#7

I better decide by the time i;d be going cleric 2 which is rank 4.

#8

Full supports have Chaplain? interesting…

I mean, Krivis is pretty dope for support but a lot of people don’t realize the true potential of the class.

I think Cleric3 is more useful for Full Support than Chaplain.

#9

100% uptime Stone Skin from Capella is too strong on Chaplain.

#10

Nah. Capella refreshes your buffs, especially if you walk in and out of it. it’s worthless to use. If you had Krivis with Daino then you’d be alright; but you’re better off not touching it or rewriting your teams buffs.

Capella can get pushed away or even destroyed. It’s a waste of a skill imo.

#11

Even if capella applies its buffs only once before destroyed you can still achieve nearly permanent Stone Skin because Capella doesnt put original skills on CD.

#12

while having the chance sacrificing or overwriting other buffs with no Daino. I’ve had it overwrite my own aspergillum and last rites. Lol

and I deal more damage than I receive. any one who had an organized team wouldn’t need it. and what’s more threatening isn’t physical, it’s magical.

#13

In PvP it is a hard counter to all that is physical (swordies/archers). There is a reason why top 50 PvP on Korean server is dominated by mages and clerics (chaplains/PD). And that reason is Stone Skin.

#14

that moment when you think KR players are better pvpers lmfao.

#15

Yeah its just I don’t really wanna get krivis just for daino, its such a waste of a class rank when I could get something useful like champlain. At rank 5 and with a token archer/wiz can have 7 buffs, and cleric/swordie can have 9 buffs iirc. Some buffs can be skipped, all they really need is belssing+sac+stoneskin, Mons is situational at best, My highest is lv 115 and defense doesn’t really seem to matter all that much SO don’t really need asperio(sp?) either. SO thats pretty much 3 buffs from priest Id use, and i think one from champlain? or 2 at most? that leaves 4 slots on swordies and 2 on wiz/archer. Unless the info I got is wrong and imc yet again nerfed the english version stupidly with lower buff counts (why is max buff count even a thing in a mmorpg anyway?) It just annoys me that imma give up so much champlain goodness for stupid krivis who i won’t even use the skills most of the time. All because of the buff count issue that shouldn’t even be in a mmorpg. At least not one this low.

#16

Dont worry about daino. You will be able to buy daino scrolls in the future anyways. Krivis is nice yeah but not that awesome. And I kinda like the buff count mechanic, makes things a bit more difficult than just spamming buffs. I dont mind it as lvl10/15 dainos will solve the problem. Im probably going to be making my own pardoner anyways.

#17

You won’t be able to use those scrolls in PvP. So hopefully someone in your bunch has Krivis.

#18

You can still play Chaplain. It’s nice when you have Chaplains who are Cleric2 and have consistent heals. I usually end up with 2 in all my dungeon queues, I just dislike when they overwrite buffs.

#19

C2 Cleric > C3 Krivis > C2 Druid

That guy strategy just sold me out. I’m done playing Chaplain nor Paladin.

#20

Just keep in mind that “that guy” is lvl 280 in a lvl 130 dungeon.