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Deciding on Shinobi Build - A few questions

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Greetings,

I’ve been trying to decide on two different builds for a Shinobi.

Sword > Sword > Pelt > Sword > Corsair > Corsair > Shinobi would be build 1

Sword > Sword > Barb > Barb > Sword > Doppel > Shinobi would be build 2

Please keep in mind this is a Bunshin-focused build.

So, what’s the problem here?

Sword3 goes for both builds since I can only use Swordsman and Shinobi skills with bunshins, so the discussion should be about the other 3 choices.

Build 1 offers Corsair 2, which gives me a few dual-wielding skills (which I plan to use as a Shinobi), jolly roger’s utility and the dagger passive atribute. It also offers me Swashbuckling, which will add utility to my character in a party and will help to gather mobs to farm with either minjin no jutsu or katon no jutsu.

Build 2 offers Doppel and Barb2. This clearly makes my leveling easier, since taking barb2 on ranks 3 and 4 would offer me much more damage than being Sword3 Pelt1 at that point. The same goes for cyclone: it offers an AoE that Corsair’s Skills don’t. The downside being that none of these skills can be used by my clones.

So, to help me decide, here are some questions:

Are bunshins affected by buff skills? Concentrate, Gung Ho, Restrain, Frenzy, Double Weapon assault; how each of these skills interact with them? Are they affected by some, all, or none? Specially restrain: Is it possible to permabash something with 6 restrain-buffed bunshins hitting it constantly?

How good would Barb & Doppel skills be with dual wielding instead of 2-H swords? Would the damage difference be too significant that it would be idiotic to try to dual wield? Also, how do you think Shinobis perform in both PVP and PVE?

Thanks for your attention.

#2

Build 1: Love this build! Best dual wielding Shinobi. For people wanting to play that role should be a fun basic attacking build. I may roll it one day.

Build 2: Don’t see the benefit of this build besides leveling more easily at early levels? If I was going a build like this, I would make it a 2H swordy use Sword C1 > Highlander C3 > Sword C2 > Doppel C1 > Shinobi and go super high dex. It would be good because Kunai dmg scales with dex, and 2H swordies do too because of the extra crit damage from highlander. It would be somewhat thematic as a Katana is one of the shinobi’s primary weapons and is 2h.

If I were to guess, Build 1 would be strongest in PvE (Jolly Roger, Swashbuckling) while Build 2 would be strongest in PvP (Highlander skills!)

Sadly, I never played Shinobi myself and cannot answer your other questions. Hopefully other people can help, but take what they say with a grain of salt because few people actually have experience. Theory-crafting is fun, but not reliable at this point.

#3

Id go for sword>sword>hop>hop>corsair>corsair>shinobi
something like this

EDIT: Or peltast instead of sword2. could be better
this build is OLD, but this link is getting a lot of views, so ill make a new one here
more pvp:

and a more pve one:

#4

Nice, build looks great for spear users.
Can anyone confirm that Shinobis’ clones can use only swordsman skills? I have heard and seen in some videos that they only use Kunais and basic attacks.

#5

What would be the pelt utility in the first build? Pelt skills requiere shield or not?

Thanks

#6

You can use Swashbuckling and Guardian without a Shield. But Umbo and Rim Blow require a shield.

Peltasta is mainly for Swashbuckling. A great skill from early until late game that easily allows Swordsman to enter any party. lol