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Decided to main Support Class Question

Hi and Greetings

2 days from now TOS will launched its F2P access.
i find that TOS class branching is complicated and it should really be planned.

and before that i want to plan my Full Support build focusing for dungeon end game.

Right now i really want to rely on someones build since im clueless no idea on how buff skill works unless i see it in action / experience.

i hope someone can pinpoint some buff skill

  • must have skill
  • useless skill ( avoid at all cost )

stating reasons for the said skill

i recently found this build for full support and still deciding which one to follow

  1. http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/rcxu3eiumk/
  2. http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4klu651nty/

if you have time can you help me answering some of question given below

  • rating from 1 to 5 what is your initial score for this build for full support which one do you prefer and why
  • honest opinion on this build? Pros and Cons?
  • Are there more alternative / effective Builds out there for full support ( hidden / burried threads )

Thank you for Time & Reading

you can buy dainio scrolls, so going kivris just for dainio isnt the best idea. I suggest:

good to aid dps who spam skills, low CDs high AoE dmg, ress, defense buff and dex buff, at a hypothetical rank 8, 9 or even 10 your CD buff is priceless and you can build/reset diev based in your needs (some people likes carve attack or max Laima to expand the buff zone), good healing, silence, have 18 sec of invulnerability for you and your party members, have a lot of debuffs to boost your incineration, cc inmunity, healing factor.

the only way to get diev buffs i get a diev in your party.

what do you miss with this build -----> stone skin, the diev gives static buffs and dps, so it requires players to communicate each others.

edit: chaplain and alice’s build are standar builds, you cant go wrong with them NOW, but they lack of dps, and their utility will go down in time since their buffs doesnt scale.

a good support do dps, buff their allies, protect and heal them.

Sorry in advance for the long post

As of right now the Cleric supports are divided by Priests and Dievdirbys.

Priests are kinda like your basic Priest of MMORPG’s, buffs, heals and ress, also pretty player friendly since it doesn’t require much (other than timing and positioning to use buffs and heals correctly), the only con I could think about Priest is that they require items to cast their buffs (Aspersion, Sacrament and Blessing) so you’ve to manage your buffs correctly so you don’t waste a lot of silver.

Dievdirbys are more complex, they require even more timing to know when to use your stuff because you work around statues which give different bonuses, or they can also deal dmg/cc, however they’re stationary, meaning that you’ve to know when to use them and place them in the right direction (Carve Owl), also they can be bounced around by bosses which might be a little frustrating (alongside long cd’s), they also use woods to carve their statues, which you can buy.

Also for Full Support Build you pretty much need Cleric C2, it’s a must.

So your build would look something like this:

Cleric C2 > Priest C3/Dievdirby C3 > X > X (Cleric C2 can be taken later if you go for the Priest path so you can focus on Priest early on).

So what can you choose for rank 6 and 7?

For Priest:

Chaplain > Plague Doctor: Chaplain is the Hidden class for Priest C3 so it works around Priest’s abilities in order to use Chaplain’s skills, however for a full support some people might disagree with taking him because he’s more to improve your solo gameplay, Plague Doctor gives you CC Inmunity up to rank 3 with it’s abilities aswell as Healing Factor, a strong regeneration ability.

Krivis > Plague Doctor: The alternative to Chaplain, you get Daino which helps you a lot since you’ve a bunch of buffs so you won’t overwrite your party members buffs, Plague Doctor for the same reasons stated above, with Daino scrolls you don’t really need to go Krivis unless you don’t want to waste money on it.

Oracle > Kabbalist: Not really a popular pick but it’s an option if you’re not really into Plague Doctor, Oracle gives you a SP/Stamina buff, predict movements from enemies, Counter Spell which is nice to prevent magic dmg and Prophecy to prevent rank 1 cc (which is nice since Kabbalist doesn’t have any of that), Kabbalist with Ein Sof is a really nice SP regen ability with the attribute, also increases your max hp, Merkabah deals somewhat decent dmg and Revenged Sevenfold can be used to totally nullify a boss attack, so with perfect timing you could mitigate the total dmg of a boss aoe for example.

For Dievdirby:

Krivis > Plague Doctor: As stated before, Krivis for Daino and Plague Doctor for Healing Factor regeneration and cc inmunity up to rank 3 cc (even though you don’t really hae that many buffs it’s still nice to have Daino), you can buy Daino scrolls and skip Krivis entirely too.

Priest > Plague Doctor: Priest being the only class in the Cleric tree capable to ressurect, it could come in handy to just have 1 rank of it to get it.

Druid C2: Though this is more of an offensive build, you still get some utility out of it with Sterea Trofh which gives you inmunity, alongside your statue Ausrine and Safety Zone you’ve a lot of inmunity at your disposal.

Oracle > Kabbalist: Once again not a popular choice but an alternative to Plague Doctor, same reasons as stated in the Priest segment.

Those are the build possibilities I could think about, as for the must have skills or useless skills it really depends of what classes you pick or what you like the most, since it changes depending of what you choose.

As for the rating, I’d give 5/5 to Priest and 4/5 to Dievdirby, the reason is because Dievdirby struggles when he has to move around a lot so he can’t fully use his statues (also requires a lot of communication with the party so they kill stuff inside the statues buffs), while Priest doesn’t have that problem and it’s more smooth in that matter.

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If you don’t plan to pvp, taking plague doctor with priest is a little wonky. With Dieve it works with some of the skills better since they can cause debuffs to work with incineration but there’s little to no synergy with Plague Doctor and Priest imo. People take PD with Priest so they can use Bloodletting and Healing Factor in pvp or they take PD because everyone says it’s good without actually thinking about it.

Hi again as a newbie in game its worth a read i really learned a lot
thank you

i still want to confirm / continue to discuss some things really bothering me

how about the class of choice when doing party dungeon
i havnt played the game so pardon me

I wanna throw some random question

  • Which one do you feel comfortable partying ( Priest or Dietary )
  • About buff versus and utility which one has more beneficial in PVE Dungeon ( class specific branches / Skills and why )
  • Is SP Really a Problem
  • which class branch is more pub friendly or most welcomed in pve dungeon

still confuse because
you said that

Chaplain’s skills, however for a full support some people might disagree with taking him because he’s more to improve your solo gameplay

Champlain is full support but why he is not prefered by people? im confuse part especially solo gameplay can you elaborate more

Priest is more comfortable and easier to manage in public groups than Dievdirby, because you don’t really need to worry about people knowing what your skills do because they’re pretty straight forward while Dievdirby your party has to know what they do and also to stay inside of their statues auras and such.

Buff wise I consider Dievdirby better because with Statue Laima it gives your party 20% CDR which with long CD abilities it’s really strong, also if your party has a Chronomancer (Wizard Class) it’s a really nice combo with Pass (Chronomancer Skill) which also reduces the CD of skills by 25 secs, also Statue Ausrine can give you a total of 36 secs of invulnerability (when used right) which can be game changing, Zemyna reduces the SP cost of skills.

Priest is more of like a defensive buffer, while having a little addition to dmg, Stone Skin is a really nice defensive buff (with SPR build) that can block a lot of physical dmg, Aspersion gives you physical defense, Sacrament gives you Holy Attack with your basic attacks and with the attribute Dark Resistance, Revive to prevent death and give invulnerability when they take a critical hit (a hit that might kill them), so overall is more defensive.

In short, Dievdirby works to furthermore improve your party DPS because they can spam their abilities more while Priests makes your party survive longer.

No, SP is NOT a problem at all, Clerics have pretty high SP pools, so they don’t really suffer a lot.

Another class branch that is really welcomed besides the cleric supports, is the Chronomancer support which is a Wizard class, really nice support utility.

Basically I said that from Chaplain because they work around Priest’s buffs lvls, so you’ve to increase the lvl of your buffs a lot to fully use it’s utility.

Like for example Aspergillum increases it’s utility depending of the lvl of your Aspersion, basically it adds another line of dmg to your basic attacks and the more lvls in Aspersion you’ve the more dmg it does, but having a lvl 15 Aspersion means that you won’t have many room to pick full support skills at all.

So that’s why it’s considered more for a solo build because it improves your solo play by A LOT, you can still pick it and work around it with low lvl buffs but they’re not going to be that effective, same happens with Sacrament, usually you won’t be able to get a lot of lvls on it because you’ve other skills which are more worth maxing, but Last Rites scales off your Sacrament lvl so you might need some points on it, reducing your point distribution options.

I haven’t play the game either since I’m waiting for F2P, but just by reading you can gather a lot of information :stuck_out_tongue:

Btw you will see a lot of people playing down Krivis “just for Daino”. Yes… you can buy Daino scrolls, so can everyone else. But I personally don’t know how many people are willing to spend 4k-6k on a 5 min buff :stuck_out_tongue: Also iirc you can’t use scrolls in PVP/GVG if that matters to you (it might not).

Also if you are SPR (which makes sense for a lot of full support builds) Krivis will give an amazing crit buff called Zalciai which I think is forgotten a lot by some people as well (mine currently gives over 250 crit attack plus 48 magic amp and reduces enemy crit resist by 150. I’m around level 200, not full SPR and I haven’t maxed the attribute yet!)

I have around 320 SPR and max attribute and that give my party 450+crit atc and -250+ crit res on mobs.

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Even lvl 285 bosses have somewhere around 120 crit resist. Does crit resist go to negative values?

Not priest here, but krivis.
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Both builds that you propose is equally terrible.

The first build is lv.8 Sacrament and Lv.4 revive, revive should go to lv.10 If you want to focus supporting on pve.

The second build, I stop reading on the section that shows it only take lv.1 cure. Cure is one of the best skill in cleric class tree, you kill mobs with this skill, you melt boss with this skill, no reason not to max it.

So far I only got to experince Diev 3 and I fcking love my class. Double owl is sick.

Conflicting evidence about this, so I’m not sure.

Someone said he thinks it does, based on a duel (but we know that PVP rules might not apply to PVE)
Someone on Reddit suggests that it can’t.
I haven’t tested it myself.

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hi its me again ive finally decided for the class route branching
cleric > P3 > chaplain > cleric > plague doctor )

i recently build a skill for my character any feedbacks are welcome
or suggestion to improve it

Thank You