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Deadgame? Yes i think so

It was like that during the expansion as well. I assume by now they’ve fixed it… But I haven’t been on there in years to know.


It’s probably like hots now… You max your queue time out in 10min then the match maker immediately fills your game up with whatever the highest players are that are in queue and you’re expected to fight/play with them. Even if it’s a horridly imbalanced. Which is to say everyday for high level people besides Saturday primetime! Yay.

sry, sea with bnet is 600ping… we had garena/blueserver for replacement

even so, normal wc3 is not that popular back in those time.

people only install wc3 for dota, mostly.

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Yup, for mission, and dungeon, they should merge all the server…

Yes, put some blue shiny monster inside the dungeon…

Haha…

True. But the sad thing is, IMC designed this game with a lot of annoying features like uneccessary quest item cooldowns, and they seem to like to keep players on waiting about everything. We even need to wait for a day to receive market incomes? FFS.

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Yeah it was shunned by a lot of starcraft players since it was macro light and micro heavy. And back then starcraft players were the vast majority of RTS players.

Average players just didn’t have time or motivation to get over the learning curve. And that WC3 custom maps were awesome… All the dota/AoS maps were cool, evolves, and the tower defenses. Lot of maps that ended up defining new genres came out there.


The expansion did have Zileas leading it… Who was the guy that came up with the idea of actions per min(APM) as a resource(later he became the producer of riot games).

He was the guy that tried to change it so it was more starcraft like. By putting in low APM counters to high APM units.

This kind of got people using more the simple units in the game which made it a bit more like starcraft. And the high level players instead just kind of focused on playing WC3 more like BoxeR’s style from starcraft which was to setup multiple fights across the map simultaneously. And that was kind of how you out skilled your opponent.

quest item cooldown… well, they sure can reduce the cooldown, but i think its there to prevent some bugs…

i have no trouble waiting 10secs for quest item cooldown, but given all the current issues on hand, this is low priority.

48hr market retrieve, they said to combat rmt, oh well… thats imc logic for ya~
6months since they put up that 48hours thingy, im sure they have enough data if the restriction concept is a fail or succcess

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rts is dead now… i miss westwood command n conquer n all time favourite, age of empire~ wololo~

aside from sc2, literally no noticeable rts now…

now its trend for mobile game+energy concept… login, do daily, collect item, wow so much fun! ggwp

mmo is dying as well…

future for gaming is vr shooter etc

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Yeah… None of the kids want to learn something as difficult as RTS now. And even the old RTS players like me just go and play MOBAs instead–low stress and more social.

Games are kind of getting to the point where they started cracking the code of what makes things fun. And the old jaded gamers that like to fight for their rewards are getting left out in the cold when it comes to main stream titles.

Kids just go play clicker hero or farmville. I’m wondering what they will want to play when they’re older though.

Good RTSs are far and inbetween now adays.

There are still good Strategy and 4x Strat games.
Ofc
The CIv series
All of paradoxes games especially ck2 and europa universails 4, which are the most polished, will give you HOURS/DAYs/YEARS of enjoyment if you like 4x strat. Stellaris is still iffy, not polished enough same with Heart of Iron 4. But still decent options. EU4 though man I can spend days on that game without realizing it.

Also Endless legend, which I tried for a short time was fun. Kinda civ like but more fantasy.

RTS, it’s difficult to find. SC2 is like the only option unless you play older games like AoE, C&C, TA, etc etc.

PS also wait for a steam sale on any of these games.
EU4+all the DLCS = Pretty much the cost of 1 boxed game around $60 bucks. When not on sale, id just wait.

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all these let down n frust, do u still dont understand why i have high hope tos to be the next industry changing title by now

simply put, gaming industry is market driven now… cash milk…

no more brilliant idea

future is dull…

im sad…

sigh

maybe i should go back to console jrpg

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Industry changing? No… I never had hopes like that. This is a throw back game by a team of old men that still try and make the game like they used to. Least till people start getting angsty and force them to adopt more of 2016.

It’ill be fine when IMC finds a balance with it. Though the R8 was a bit on the WoW’ish or maybe Tera Online style for pacing. Like the grind better but it just doesn’t fit the games class system. So it’s better they went with easier to level and keep going down that route.

At least if they don’t ever plan to overhaul the team system to function closer to something like FF11 or FF14’s class system. Where you keep more progress between classes/characters. But I feel like we’ve already had that conversation before…


I tried jRPGs again not that fun… Though, there were some good humor RPGs that were fun. Cthulhu saves the world comes to mind as one I was thinking of trying…

Ultra thread derail :smiley:

btw, I’m still hoping for more wc3 custom maps to be ported to dota 2.

Will IMC ever implement level normalize so all levels of players can have fun together? Or will they wait until the population is 1k to act?

This is a repeated thread which will be repeated again. We can derail it all we want choo chooooo!

hue

Im doing my hue duty and giving other options for people. You should be thankful Maymay.

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Will valve ever make HL3 or another single player game? Is selling games for other companies and microtransactions in MOBAs too profitable to bother with making story-driven games anymore?

How much do u think Valve is making off ITOS?

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huehuehue~

derail , but not omfg-u-sucks-catfight kind of derail~

huehuehue~

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I dont negotiate contracts with valve. I just get paid to annoy the hue army.

And that time is over. I will speak to you and answer your question tomorrow.

I only forum here while im getting paid tee hee heeeee hue hue

That is exactly what i was talking about on my Reddit post

Share your idea :smile_cat:

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Let’s derail into something happy then.

/hue.hue.hue.

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will artooc3po get fired for wasting company resources?

lol

well… we can talk n dream all we want

remember nes64 or famicom times?
they dont ask random people for ideas but able to sell like ■■■■-ton

2016, with information availability, we end up more regressed than ever

maybe we need to go back to pre year2000

make a complete game, sell it.
no patch, no dlc, one-time-payment

if title a success, work on episode2, repeat.

piracy killed that model though… huehuehue

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