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Daily Reminder: FleeTiPi is a Diamond's alt guild abusing GvG ranks! As well Alpha is cheating!

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IMC = I Make Crap
They could’ve at least cut off the rewards before the TP got abused to heck. They are paying players to FK up their game.

/hue?

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I had a theory at one point that Kim Hakkyu actually hates Ragnarok Online and the western fan market. That’s why he never gives iTOS any updates or does anything but continue to milk stupid people. They come here almost every other day on one of those mysteriously obscure moderator accounts to drink the players tears.

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The top 2 guilds? I don’t think you noticed but Lotus is also is exploiting by this week.

TeamAqua fed Lotus all week and even in previous weeks. What’s different is they hide who their feeder guild is.

@OP:

Just about 80% of Klaipeda does it and only 20% of Orsha does it. OP can either point fingers or offer actual solutions. Isn’t it strange that he barely touched the other guild doing it this week or in previous weeks? I wonder who he’s affiliated with?

Other than your opening post, these guys are doing it for a while and most likely pissed off at the system too.



The guild FleeTiPi had fed Asperity, Impetus, and the obvious Diamond for a long time.

If you want the blame approach, OP, it will help if you don’t block out which guild you’re trying to protect in your first screenshot too.

We can do this blame game or we can actually offer solutions. Their system is flawed but it is the system they made. It was never really against the rules. All these guilds play in the system.
IMC doesn’t care enough to fix this fast enough so you can see most of the guilds frustrations fighting with horrible FPS.

You get very few guilds wanting to fight with every passing week.

Banning most of the playerbase will not change GvG. Even if it changes, you will not have anyone left to fight.
You have to keep offering solutions.

Not enough people send support tickets so guilds gave up. If you remember the guild tower/TBL bug, that had caused many players to quit and many guilds gave up because they can’t fill their roster up anymore.

Once they change GvG, it may get revived.

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All these guilds exploiting, this is awful. No respect, no shame, all for TP. This is the new generation of players, bad sportsmanship and abusing everything they could just to “tryhard” to be good on a game.

In general, you don’t want people to quit but you guys abuse everything on the game, call it events, GBL, TBL(Practonium Xploit), channel crashing, guess the only one to blame here is IMC right? Seems like your parents didn’t teach you any education, at all, this is why our world is so ■■■■■■ up, it should be reset like Avenged Sevenfold’s song shows on its recent video/album a.k.a The Stage.

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lol @ the people that were so invested or looking forward to pvp or any kind of nature

There should have NEVER been a reward for PVP at all. It was the stupidest idea back then and now just a factually proven stupid problem. Never under estimate the power of competitive scumbags.

First, I’d like to point out that my guild (Impetus) only started actively GVGing like 2 weeks ago and we’re still a fairly new guild. We have had exactly 1 match vs. FleeTiPi when towers weren’t attack-able, and their GM left and we technically got a loss too. I have 0 interest whatsoever in match-fixing because I love PVP/GVG and it’s what I came here to do as this game has little else to offer.

Second, are you suggesting that no one else queue because of the risk of being against one of these guilds?

Aqua does not seem to be deliberately feeding other guilds, they’re just a small guild that happens to be queuing.

Of course guilds like Lotus are going to feed off the smaller guilds like Aqua and even mine, that’s not even close to the same thing the other guilds are doing–which is communicating with each other and rejecting the queue if they aren’t against one another.

If we want to participate in GVG, we have to queue, and if we’re doing it right we don’t see who we get up against until we’re in a match. 80% of the guilds on Klaipeda are not the problem, it’s the big 3 right now with their (now several) feeder guilds per. Alpha and Diamond have at least 3 feeder guilds a piece, Crows and Ravens are only fixing matches among themselves.

That leaves scores of other small guilds that are not Crimson and Lotus that have to risk fighting either Crimson or Lotus, another smaller guild, or one of the feeders. The only (known) feeders right now are Aipha, Talt, Asperity, FleeTiPi, and the Crows/Ravens horseshit. It’s unreasonable (and very misleading) to simply lump the other guilds into this mess because we actually want to queue for GVG.

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What exactly made you come up with that conclusion?
No one’s feeding us.
I guess anyone who isn’t lotus/crimson and gets in the top 10 is win trading right? stop being pathetic we got matched against them once accidentally.

gvg system is trial n error now n require feedback to improvise it.

gotta abuse it often before its fixed

such is the life of tos player.

+1 like to any player that give feedback~

huehuehue

Lotus is the number 2 best guild in NA and they give Crimson the number 1 guild in NA good matches.So why would Lotus need to win trade LMAO.

Have you ever look at Lotus matches against Crimson.Please man you have no clue what your talking about and saying foolishness.Lotus doesn’t need to dodge ,they Q up and go against whoever doesn’t reject the match.

Moreover,I have not see Impetus feed any guilds.Every guild happens to match up against the feeder guilds at times… it’s normal…

I would have to add Impetus to one of the legit and honest guilds who isn’t feeding nor getting feed purposely.

You think Lotus and Crimson never faced Aipha,CuteNotLewd,Fleetipi,Crow,etc

@STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @staff @GM_Francis @GM_Sebastian

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Not sure if my word counts but I can say 100% sure and put my hands on fire for that Lotus aren’t win-trading. Unlike some other guilds that everyone already knows.

What you see there is small guilds queuing or in a “worst case scenario” Lotus has prevented them from feeding a guild abusing this because they’re in queue to get real matches instead of people cancelling matches, cheating/match-fixing and other things you see if you keep up with GvG scenario, once you queue, you’ll end up getting some matches like that.

What changes it is that you can recognize who is honest and who just cheats for ranks/TP.

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Woah, woah, hold on…




Ok, I think I’m done. No wait…

No.

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LMAO dude this made my facking day OMG hahahahahahaha

Thank you so much LMAO,I am tearing lollllllllllllll

Lets cheat until the server itself crash, maybe when that happens they gonna go and fix it

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Lotus are not cheating just so you know. We literally queue and fight anyone including Crimson. Do you need proof? Here are 3 separate cases where we actually won against them in a legit and fair fight and as well as one very close match where we lost. Proof

Of course we still lose to them but we hope to continue improving our strategy to give them a fun and entertaining fight.

If you guys can’t produce the same result, don’t assume we’re exploiting.

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This is the truth the top 2 guilds are not doing this its all the other scared guilds that cant hang and decide that exploiting is ok cause they’re garbage. My guild is far from the best but when we GVG-ed was the only one not running from Crimson and took are beatings cant blame them or Lotus for being better than us my guild just needs to get gud lol.

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Also getting matched with a feeding guild by incidence is not cheating now the guilds that only match with said guilds are obviously cheating so dont jump to conclusions on an instance or two.

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All of the feeding guilds queue with a low lvl Templar while all the real guilds use other characters that aren’t useless in GBL. So don’t accuse CuteNotLewd, Cute, Impetus, and TeamAqua of win trading.

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Why do I never see CuteNotLewd go against anyone but cute?

Let us all assume that all guilds that are awarded TP weekly cheat.
Let us all assume IMC is paying these guilds to wreck their game faster for ITOS so they can shut it down and focus on kTOS, jTOS.
Let us all assume that all other characters farming in the same channel are bots.

Why? Because we’re iTOS and IMC has made an @$$u out of U and ME.

/hue.

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